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Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

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Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

#21

How commonly accepted of a best practice is it to only shadow delete items in a DB. Will GDPR in Europe stop this? As a US user, I always fear that the internet is 100% written in ink. Either because of some caching mechanism, archiving protocol, or general reluctance to delete.

Extremely common but definitely not best practice. Many companies don't even have life cycle management.

Hopefully GDPR will stop this.

Your fears are well founded, especially for anything that was public at some point in time. Also include email in that view.

Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

#22
I've been using this Chrome extension [0] for many years which simply hides the news feed. After installing it, I never looked back. I haven't disabled it once. If everyone stopped using the news feed, Facebook would be dead. It's the heart of the addiction machine.

[0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kill-news-feed/hjo...

Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

#23
The quickest way to get an idea of the ethics of a company you are about to sign up with is to see how easy it is to delete your account. If that's not automatic and with only one confirmation whether or not you are sure and that you can't undo your deletion then you are best off not to give them your data in the first place.

For all those FB users this is of course way too late, but maybe it will help some of you in the future with other services.

Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

#24
I deleted my account a few days ago. It was surprisingly less trouble than expected. I had very little linked to my account, only my PlayStation account had access for posting media from my PS4 which I only did once or twice.

I downloaded my data, which took about 20 minutes to accumulate, hit the delete button and had to confirm a second time with my password. Supposedly my account will be removed after 14 days of being deactivated. I had to be careful to remove all bookmarks etc to prevent any accidental logins resulting in the process being reversed.

Glad it’s gone, I don’t miss it. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for this type of thing on the internet.

Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

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post #12

I deleted my Facebook to the best of my ability about a week ago. Fun facts: * They switch around button colors to trick you into undoing your actions * They are very eager to log you back in if you, for example, try to access help. This reactivates your account. * You cannot delete your account on Messenger. They removed the option. Deleting your Facebook profile does not delete your messenger account * Their doc fo…

I'm surprised there wasn't a step that involved a locked file cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard."

Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

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post #10

If you're in Europe and want to delete your fb account, wouldn't it be better to wait until GDPR activates, so your data actually gets erased instead of hidden? I'm going to erase quite a few accounts I'm no longer using on various services, I really hope they won't cheat.

According to Wikipedia, GDPR arrives on the 25th of May. Do you know it services are truly forced to comply from that day onwards or should we wait even longer?

Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

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post #10

If you're in Europe and want to delete your fb account, wouldn't it be better to wait until GDPR activates, so your data actually gets erased instead of hidden? I'm going to erase quite a few accounts I'm no longer using on various services, I really hope they won't cheat.

It’s currently not possible to request all your data from Instagram, so I’m waiting for GDPR to arrive before closing my account.

That way I can both get a backup of my images and have a reasonable chance of my data actually being deleted.

Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

#28

The quickest way to get an idea of the ethics of a company you are about to sign up with is to see how easy it is to delete your account. If that's not automatic and with only one confirmation whether or not you are sure and that you can't undo your deletion then you are best off not to give them your data in the first place. For all those FB users this is of course way too late, but maybe it will help some of you in…

A similar advice holds when you're buying some (physical) product: first call customer service, and see how long it takes them to pick up the phone.

Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

#29
"We've seen a few advertisers pause with us and they're asking the same questions that other people are asking," Sandberg said Thursday in an interview at Facebook headquarters in Menlo Park, California. "They want to make sure they can use data and use it safely."

Sandberg said she is having "reassuring conversations with advertisers, just as we are with people," about how Facebook has built privacy into its system.

[ This is very reassuring. ]

The company makes almost all its revenue and profit from advertising.

[ This too. ]

...

In a wide-ranging interview, Sandberg discussed the company's shifting responsibilities as it thinks about what can go wrong with its network, following the Cambridge Analytica revelations.

[ "Shifting responsibilities". Hmmm. ]

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The company will also apply new European user-privacy rules globally, Sandberg said.

While the service may look different depending on the country, "the fundamental core principles of those settings and controls we are going to apply all over the world," she said. "Whether or not laws are passed."

[ Why does it need to "look different"? Less confusing that way I guess. ]

Separately, in an interview with Emily Chang of Bloomberg Television, Sandberg took the blame for not ensuring that Facebook's operations were staffed at the right level to protect users' privacy and for failing to look at security issues in total rather than dealing with specific problems as they arose.

"We also didn't build our operations fast enough, and that's on me," Sandberg said, explaining that the company will have 20,000 people working on security by year's end.

[ How brave to take the blame, considering the repercussions for this sort of negligence or carelessness with respect to privacy in the US are... nonexistent. ]

Source:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-05/facebook-...

Re: Extra Technical Obstacles for Facebook Quitters

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post #12

I deleted my Facebook to the best of my ability about a week ago. Fun facts: * They switch around button colors to trick you into undoing your actions * They are very eager to log you back in if you, for example, try to access help. This reactivates your account. * You cannot delete your account on Messenger. They removed the option. Deleting your Facebook profile does not delete your messenger account * Their doc fo…

Do you know of a way to automatically delete all my likes and posts?

I'd like to not delete my Facebook account because my Spotify account is linked to it.

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