Friendica – A Decentralized Social Network

Post by codyswann » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 4:41 PM UTC

chrstphrknwtn wrote: post #49

codyswann wrote: post #40

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And yet if you said "Or you can pay me directly to use this service," how do you think people would respond? And you literally just described the profession of marketing. So if you replaced the inflammatory phrase "manipulate your thinking" with "market toward you", I think they'd be totally fine with it. I mean, why else do you "Like" something on Facebook anyway unless you want other people to know that you like it…

Well, your whole argument seems to be based on what ill-informed people will tolerate, not was is ethical. I agree marketing is intended to manipulate your thinking... or "market towards you". I suspect I have a different attitude about marketing than you do. I don't use facebook, I used for a week in 2007, and thought "this is just a marketing data machine, no thanks". Further, the innocuous sounding "Connecting the…

Post by gkbrk » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:09 PM UTC

codyswann wrote: post #110

fwdpropaganda wrote: post #43

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> Tell me why I should care. I don't care if you care. That's your decision. > The same thing happens with loyalty cards at Walgreens. It's not the same thing at all. With loyalty cards I get the OPTION of being rewarded for allowing a company to track me. So I weigh getting rewarded (positive) against sharing my data (negative), and I make a decision. With Facebook there is no option, they track everyone regardless.…

Tell me why anyone should care. You have the option of using Facebook or not. If you don't have a Facebook account, they don't have your data. If you don't have a Walgreens loyalty card, they don't have your data. People are faux outraged. They're not really outraged at all. Check this comment in two months and tell me how "outraged" people are at Facebook for selling their data. It would depend on what kind of "demo…

Post by freehunter » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:19 PM UTC

kodablah wrote: post #79

grinsekatze wrote: post #42

I think many people that are moving away from Facebook move away from social networks in general. Personally, I am not interested at all in a Facebook replacement. I gave a couple a try, but quickly realized that spending time on these social networks is even more boring than Facebook, especially if none of your friends are on there.. and therefor a total waste of my time. If I need to communicate with friends I do t…

> I think many people that are moving away from Facebook move away from social networks in general [...] If I need to communicate with friends I do this "directly" via WhatsApp or email. I'd like to see the line disappear and I'd like to see WhatsApp or email be considered social networking. I think a well built app can have both of those features in addition to the feed+post+comment style of Facebook. From the user…

Post by always_good » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:24 PM UTC

zoul wrote: post #26

common_ wrote: post #21

All communities have leaders, whales, whatever you want to call them. Even Bitcoin is now controlled by a small group of mostly Chinese people. Decentralization does nothing other than put control in the hands of an unpredictable and potentially unaccountable group of people, whereas centralized systems have people you can point to and hold accountable (or so we hope). There is a reason it's never worked throughout h…

Like e-mail or the web, perhaps?

Post by seanf » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:42 PM UTC

zeveb wrote: post #78

Sounds interesting, but I don't think PHP & MySQL are a good stack. While it's possible to write secure software in PHP (I'd probably trust the Paragon IE) guys to do it), it's not very likely. As for MySQL — as far as I'm concerned there is essentially no reason to choose it over PostgreSQL, and a project which does so is thus instantly suspect. If they've made an error that grave, what other errors have they made?…