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Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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E. Don't buy Apple. You'll spend much less, and won't be supporting practices you don't approve of.

This is not very useful advice, kind of similar to "just use Linux" when people complain about some issue they have with Windows. For many, dropping macOS would be a much larger disruption than having less usable F-keys. That does not mean we can't complain about it.

Or if you work with mobile apps, unable to do your job.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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E. Don't buy Apple. You'll spend much less, and won't be supporting practices you don't approve of.

And give up the only good desktop operating system, retina screens and the only usable touchpad in laptops.

I think all the things you just said are opinions, because I am existing in a non-MBP world and am happier for it, and am sad whenever I am forced to use one at work because I left my lenovo at home or whatever.

Keyboard-nub-mouse-thing for life! How do MBP users survive without it? ;P

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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post #307

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E. Don't buy Apple. You'll spend much less, and won't be supporting practices you don't approve of.

This is not very useful advice, kind of similar to "just use Linux" when people complain about some issue they have with Windows. For many, dropping macOS would be a much larger disruption than having less usable F-keys. That does not mean we can't complain about it.

> This is not very useful advice, kind of similar to "just use Linux" when people complain about some issue they have with Windows.

Given that we don't know whether or not you can live with non-Apple hardware, I think it's reasonable to at least float the idea.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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I agree with this article. The Touch Bar is a useless gimmick. Not only that, but it removed the actually useful Esc and F-Keys. Oh, and it made MacBook Pros more expensive.

I admire the author for finding ways to make the Touch Bar somewhat useful, but to me it's just too much work and just reminds me how stupid and ill conceived it is. When you remove useful things and replace them with useless crap, it will make people angry. Don't get me started with the port situation.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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They won't. Apple's history has never been to back down but to pursue the money spinning features. Power users have begged for a desktop between the iMac and the Mac Pro for years. Apple has totally ignored them.

It's a rare counter-example, but Apple released the iPhone SE for those of us who are happily living in the past. I wish they had more "SE" products.

They sold the SE alongside the existing model, just like they sell the non-TB 13" MBP alongside the TB model, and just like the SE, the hardware is lower spec.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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I'm using my XPS13 for like a year now. > - Linux applications have a lot of trouble with the HiDPI screen Honestly haven't noticed a single thing. > - Coil whine None of that. > - Shitty battery life What's shitty? It lasts 5 hours of me working with VMs. I don't think expecting more is reasonable. It's much less laggy than my collegue's MBP, which leads me to assume that Mac just throttles the CPU down to achieve l…

>> Linux applications have a lot of trouble with the HiDPI screen > Honestly haven't noticed a single thing. I've got a coworker sitting right next to me with a HiDPI main + non-HiDPI secondary screen. X or Wayland, it's a thousand cuts of hell: set native resolution and render scaling to 200% and you get some (most) apps at 200% on the non-HiDPI screen. Drag an app from HiDPI to non-HiDPI and notice how the overflow…

I was trapped in HiDPI hell for a while as well, especially because I was dual-screened with a 4k monitor.

The world became a better place when I swapped ubuntu for Debian and Unity for Gnome. Shit just works now...

Yea, I did have to set scaling at 200%, and tweak font scaling once. But it's been set and forget.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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Every professional vi/vim user I know does not use the Escape key.

How do they escape input mode?

I remap the sequence 'j-k' to esc. It provides really fast exiting of insert mode and leaves you on the home row to navigate after.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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I have the MacBook Pro 2017 edition and this is by far the worst upgrade I've experienced for such a high-end, luxury item. It's all USB-C. Virtually nobody else supports USB-C, not even Apple. Oh, you want HDMI? €100 please. I also have an iPhone 8 which is on the Lightning connector. The audio jack is gone and guess what, there's no Lightning connector on the MacBook, so you'll need 2 pairs of headsets or an adapte…

I feel like USB-C is on the rise. Nintendo Switch uses it and there's a whole bunch of new android phones starting to use come with it. I bet in a year or two, most new devices (e-book readers, phones, tablets) are going to be USB-C, probably with Apple (ironically) being the only exception. It's neat to be able to charge my Switch from my MacBook charger and vice versa (though the Switch charger barely charges the M…

Careful with the USB-C on the Switch as its current implementation is not compliant. (Still agree its adoption is on the rise).

https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/2CUPZ5yV...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16706803

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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I'be yet to discover a single use case where it might be useful. And it's nightmare on laptops

3D Touch on the keyboard to move the cursor or make text selections

This could be accomplished just as well with long taps.

I was a heavy force touch user, but I did not miss it on Android. Oreo even shows it's possible to have jump lists without force touch (gasp!) which was really the only particularly useful feature.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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Give up the only usable trackpad if you move away. Endure an objectively terrible keyboard with a massive failure rate if you stay. (Ironically my £3K touchbar MBP return key failed to register a press right on cue when typing this comment)

The new keyboards drive me nuts, too. Old ones were 100x better. How did they not notice how quickly and crappily the keys turned to degraded mushstate? Never left the clean room?

But it had to be thin and light!

The new keyboard is usable for me but is absolutely worse than the old models.

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