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The touch bar 13" has 4 Thunderbolt ports and Intel Iris 650 graphics, compared to the non-touch bar with 2 ports and Intel Iris 640.
Adding on: the touchbar 13" has 3x3 MIMO wifi (supporting up to 1300Mbps), while the non-touchbar one only has 2x2 MIMO wifi (going up to 867Mbps).
I am really "worried" about two features coming out of Apple the past few years: The touch bar mentioned here and the "3D touch" feature of the iPhone 7+. These are "obviously" bad interaction designs yet they come out of a company having almost infinite resources when it comes to design. What is going on here? Is it the marketing department taking over? Is it "we have created this chip and now we have to use it some…
The fact that people that frequent HN complain about something does not make it an obviously bad idea. Most of the developer complaints about the touchbar are about losing the hardware function and escape keys (which depending on how you use your laptop can be a bad trade off). Outside of that audience (and for those that code most of the time using an external keyboard) it’s actually pretty great. I say this based b…
I don’t even mess with the keyboard on my MBP, unless I’m actually mobile. Even then, I often drag along my preferred input devices.
It’s very hard to guage the relative weight of these different potential target markets. But, really, I’m dumbfounded at how many people I know don’t even know that the function keys are a thing!
This seems to be the cases with Windows 10, also.
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Agreed; they've intentionally nerfed the normal keyboard models - if I was an Apple user that'd infuriate me no end. To call the range "Pro" is a lie. The biggest problem I see with it is Apple's hate of developers who touch type. Surely there's enough room on that unit to include both the function row and a touch bar? If so, it'd be pretty neat to have for presenting misc information. (It looks nice enough!) Lenovo…
I touch type, and I've never touch typed a function key.
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E. Don't buy Apple. You'll spend much less, and won't be supporting practices you don't approve of.
And have even crappier hardware (thinkpads with screen resolution and disk sizes of last decade, not much cheaper, anyone?) with Win 10 preinstalled...
http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/laptops-notebooks-and-2-in-1-...
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E-inks respond too slow for good touch feedback though so you'd want to have it be clicky or vibrate or something, which adds a moving part.
Vibration could be added via a speaker, not exactly a moving part. This is how Apple's current vibration scheme works, at any rate.
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And have even crappier hardware (thinkpads with screen resolution and disk sizes of last decade, not much cheaper, anyone?) with Win 10 preinstalled...
Dell XPS 13 has build quality comparable if not better than MacBooks, comes with Linux preinstalled, and has an optional high resolution QHD+ screen. http://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/laptops-notebooks-and-2-in-1-...
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The thing is, you: A. can scream money for nerfed hardware with F-keys B. can scream money for nerfed TB with serious hardware C. can't scream money for F-keys with serious hardware D. can't scream money for TB with nerfed hardware This means I'm currently stuck in a non-choice because either of A or B is lacking, as this is C that I want (or possibly B, but without the shitty guidelines, as demonstrated by TFA). D w…
E. Don't buy Apple. You'll spend much less, and won't be supporting practices you don't approve of.
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This is not very useful advice, kind of similar to "just use Linux" when people complain about some issue they have with Windows. For many, dropping macOS would be a much larger disruption than having less usable F-keys. That does not mean we can't complain about it.
so you're saying that apple has many people in a bind, many of those willingly. that's not a good negotiating position for them.
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This is not very useful advice, kind of similar to "just use Linux" when people complain about some issue they have with Windows. For many, dropping macOS would be a much larger disruption than having less usable F-keys. That does not mean we can't complain about it.
There are plenty of other hardware manufacturers out there. One of the practices you might not wish to support is an OS being tied to a specific hardware vendor. If you don't like the hardware you shouldn't be buying it.
Which is literally the reason why OSX is that good/stable.
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Agreed; they've intentionally nerfed the normal keyboard models - if I was an Apple user that'd infuriate me no end. To call the range "Pro" is a lie. The biggest problem I see with it is Apple's hate of developers who touch type. Surely there's enough room on that unit to include both the function row and a touch bar? If so, it'd be pretty neat to have for presenting misc information. (It looks nice enough!) Lenovo…
I touch type, and I've never touch typed a function key.