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What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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Or you can just use wet wipes

Beware, many of those "flushable" wipes aren't actually: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/putrid-130-ton-mass-...

Especially for septic systems. In related news, it is very expensive to have a plumber come fish "flushable" wipes from your septic system when they are blocking the tank and backing the "water" back up into the house.

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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Doubt it would take off, considering the low adoption rates of "regular" spray toilets in the west. It's a relatively marginal improvement after all.

Cost of bidets are coming down a lot with more domestic manufacturers. At $200-300 for a Toto-like attachment I upgraded all of my toilets. It's hard to go back once you are used to it.

Yes. I recently went to Azerbaijan and was amazing at how barbaric we are in the USA with our hard, dry toilet paper :-)

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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Yeah, we certainly can't produce toilet paper unless 50% of the population is in poverty.

Yes, 14.8% = 50% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States

I believe OP was talking about trade throughout the world.

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When I moved to Argentina, it took me a while to get used to bidets. But now that I'm used to them, I never use toilet paper voluntarily. It leaves your butt still dirty! As someone said, if you got poop on your arm, maybe while changing a diaper, would you wipe it off with a piece of paper and consider it clean? No, not if you're from the mainstream of any developed country. You would use water, soap, and maybe more…

I just use sink at home. Being tall has its benefits. When I come around to buying my own apartment I will definitely get a bidet.

I did that for a little while after I'd discovered a bidet but didn't have my own. But this one [1] is only about $25 and is really worth it. And I bring this [2] with me when I go out.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPGPUW/ref=oh_aui_sear... [2] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CSDKSQ/ref=oh_aui_sear...

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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When I moved to Argentina, it took me a while to get used to bidets. But now that I'm used to them, I never use toilet paper voluntarily. It leaves your butt still dirty! As someone said, if you got poop on your arm, maybe while changing a diaper, would you wipe it off with a piece of paper and consider it clean? No, not if you're from the mainstream of any developed country. You would use water, soap, and maybe more…

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A0RHSJO/ $35 and installs in 10 mins with included tools on most toilets. I have installed them on every toilet I regularly use and somewhat internally question anyone who uses Amazon and toilets and doesn’t have one. It also now bothers me when I stay in a 5 star hotel in the US and there is no bidet; I have seriously considered installing one of these (and leaving it) in each hotel…

It's really not the same as a line pressurized bidet, but I bring this [1] with me when I go out.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CSDKSQ/ref=oh_aui_sear...

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Toilet Paper is one of my favorite "How it's Made" episodes. Feel free to check it out at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z74OfpUbeac . My favorite part is at 4:43 with the Circular Saw!

Deeplink to 4:43 https://youtu.be/Z74OfpUbeac?t=283

oof, look at those wee small rolls at the edges... seems the machine is a bit out of sync!

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I just use sink at home. Being tall has its benefits. When I come around to buying my own apartment I will definitely get a bidet.

Hope no one uses that sink beside you. A "Biffy" toilet attachment is very convenient to install, inexpensive, and potentially a lot more considerate to others.

Sink is easy to clean. Nothing is left behind. I don't see this problem. It is like bidet, but taller. I first clean my ass, then the sink and finally my hands.

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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> To ancient Romans, the practice of sitting on a shared toilet in an open room full of people was entirely ordinary. That's a funny thing to say for an American, because, to Europeans, American toilets are much too public: doors don't go to the floor or ceiling, and even "walls" are thin sheets of wood/plastic loosely joined together with huge spaces between them. It seems, Americans don't trust one another to sit a…

> It seems, Americans don't trust one another to sit alone in a toilet; I still don't know if it's for security purposes (to check if someone has a heart failure?) or puritanical reasons (make sure people aren't having sex?) but it sure feels strange, and very difficult to get used to when one comes from a different culture. I've always thought it was far less interesting than that: they're cheaper and faster to inst…

There's regulations on minimum gap size (had a client in the industry)

https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/26620/why-do-publ...

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Once you ferment it until it stinks of ammonia, it's pretty sterile. Eventually even the extremophilic bacteria that produce the ammonia will die off from it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lant I have heard that the piss-collection industry still exists, but collecting the urine from portable toilets and extracting human urokinase from it, rather than using it for cleaners, glazes, and flavorings. And, after searching for confirmation, here it is: http://www.toilets.com/Pharm/pharm_production.htm

I'd like to recommend Jim Al-Khalili's excellent "Chemistry a volatile history" BBC documentary. At point point he describes how alchemists were attempting to convert urine to gold (hey, they're both yellow...) and by boiling it down accidentally discovered phosphorous.

Ah, detailed on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemistry:_A_Volatile_History

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