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What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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> To ancient Romans, the practice of sitting on a shared toilet in an open room full of people was entirely ordinary. That's a funny thing to say for an American, because, to Europeans, American toilets are much too public: doors don't go to the floor or ceiling, and even "walls" are thin sheets of wood/plastic loosely joined together with huge spaces between them. It seems, Americans don't trust one another to sit a…

Americans don't like toilet stalls either, they are utilitarian.

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I think a machine vision directed spray is the future. I don't fancy collecting the training data though.

Or you can just use wet wipes

Beware, many of those "flushable" wipes aren't actually: https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/putrid-130-ton-mass-...

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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When I moved to Argentina, it took me a while to get used to bidets. But now that I'm used to them, I never use toilet paper voluntarily. It leaves your butt still dirty! As someone said, if you got poop on your arm, maybe while changing a diaper, would you wipe it off with a piece of paper and consider it clean? No, not if you're from the mainstream of any developed country. You would use water, soap, and maybe more…

I just use sink at home. Being tall has its benefits. When I come around to buying my own apartment I will definitely get a bidet.

Hope no one uses that sink beside you. A "Biffy" toilet attachment is very convenient to install, inexpensive, and potentially a lot more considerate to others.

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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I think a machine vision directed spray is the future. I don't fancy collecting the training data though.

Please no. I don't want asshole recognition software tracking my movements from washroom to washroom.

But the potential for offering targeted hemorrhoid treatment advertising could heavily subsidize the cost of the Amazon Toilet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems, Americans don't trust one another to sit alone in a toilet; I still don't know if it's for security purposes (to check if someone has a heart failure?) or puritanical reasons (make sure people aren't having sex?) but it sure feels strange, and very difficult to get used to when one comes from a different culture. I've always thought it was far less interesting than that: they're cheaper and faster to inst…

It's also easier to mop the floors since you can go under the partitions.

That makes sense, but it would still be a huge improvement to eliminate gaps everywhere but the floor. The cost argument makes sense, but it doesn’t explain why it’s ubiquitous in the US but not in Europe, since the cost-saving incentive should be roughly the same in both regions.

Perhaps it started in the US because of safety or puritanism, but has now simply become a de facto standard in the US building industry. I doubt most building developers still think about safety or puritanism and specifically request this type of bathroom walls.

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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When I moved to Argentina, it took me a while to get used to bidets. But now that I'm used to them, I never use toilet paper voluntarily. It leaves your butt still dirty! As someone said, if you got poop on your arm, maybe while changing a diaper, would you wipe it off with a piece of paper and consider it clean? No, not if you're from the mainstream of any developed country. You would use water, soap, and maybe more…

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A0RHSJO/ $35 and installs in 10 mins with included tools on most toilets. I have installed them on every toilet I regularly use and somewhat internally question anyone who uses Amazon and toilets and doesn’t have one. It also now bothers me when I stay in a 5 star hotel in the US and there is no bidet; I have seriously considered installing one of these (and leaving it) in each hotel…

For those interested I bought this exact model and it didn't fit my toilet seat. It essentially adds an extra 2 inches or so of material between the porcelain and the bolt tabs on the seat. This means it doesn't close completely. Apparently you can buy bumpers but I'd need huge bumpers and didn't like the aesthetic. I have what I'd consider a standard seat so I'm not sure what kind of seat wouldn't require the bumpers.

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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I read that many asian people don't even use it and simply wash themselves with a showerhead instead. Maybe we should just do it like that?

I am thinking of a bidet, possibly this one: https://www.amazon.com/Luxe-Bidet-Neo-120-Non-Electric/dp/B0... We poop almost every day, so it makes sense to try to make the experience pleasant. Some day when I own a place, I'll probably get one of those amazing Japanese toilets. Or at least an $800 seat: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009IJ2NBI?ref=emc_b_5_t

I can vouch for the luxe. Life changing. And it's a good conversation piece :)

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also easier to mop the floors since you can go under the partitions.

That makes sense, but it would still be a huge improvement to eliminate gaps everywhere but the floor. The cost argument makes sense, but it doesn’t explain why it’s ubiquitous in the US but not in Europe, since the cost-saving incentive should be roughly the same in both regions. Perhaps it started in the US because of safety or puritanism, but has now simply become a de facto standard in the US building industry. I…

The gaps are an improvement. I take it you never had to piss in a trough? :P

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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> To ancient Romans, the practice of sitting on a shared toilet in an open room full of people was entirely ordinary. That's a funny thing to say for an American, because, to Europeans, American toilets are much too public: doors don't go to the floor or ceiling, and even "walls" are thin sheets of wood/plastic loosely joined together with huge spaces between them. It seems, Americans don't trust one another to sit a…

I think one main reason is it facilitates cleaning--also can see if it's occupied or the latch is just stuck if you call out an get no answer.

I've seen them just turn on a pressurized hose and get all the stalls in one strafing action.

Re: What Did Ancient Romans Do Without Toilet Paper?

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post #54

> To ancient Romans, the practice of sitting on a shared toilet in an open room full of people was entirely ordinary. That's a funny thing to say for an American, because, to Europeans, American toilets are much too public: doors don't go to the floor or ceiling, and even "walls" are thin sheets of wood/plastic loosely joined together with huge spaces between them. It seems, Americans don't trust one another to sit a…

Interesting - you describe most of the public bogs in Britain when describing those in the US.
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