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Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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> I decided to steal this feature and make the "coffee break" button. It locks the laptop and switches the screen off.

Ctrl+cmd+q = lock screen. Display will dim/sleep shortly after that. (Found this out myself not too long ago, I think because of HN).

Incidentally, I just switched the touch bar to the standard function key display with fn switching to the buttons just like the keyboards of old. I found I almost never look at the touch bar and there's absolutely nothing I found that it added that I couldn't already do with the old setup. I hate that the escape key is no longer where it used to be (fully left-aligned). I also hate on the new keyboards that the left and right arrow keys are so big. I use the space on the smaller keys of my old keyboard as a tactile indicator of where my hands are (perhaps it's finally time for vim?).

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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> Things got even worse when Apple "reinvented" the Play/Pause button in High Sierra.

Actually, this was introduced midway through macOS Sierra; https://developer.apple.com/documentation/mediaplayer is available in macOS 10.12.1+.

> Buttons rock. It's always faster to tap, not slide.

If you press Fn, the slider will go away and the "normal" function buttons will appear.

> I want to have instant access to Finder, anywhere. Default Touch Bar can't do that. Weird.

Why is this weird? Finder is always in the Dock for every user.

> E.g., the eyedropper tool, to take the hex color code from the screen.

/Application/Utilities/Digital Color Meter.app

> Standard Touch Bar will never support the most useful feature — to display the name of track playing.

Slide out Notification Center.

> Would be cool to display the name of the YouTube video on the Touch Bar, right?

See above.

> You have a script running once in 20 seconds, and praying it won't overload the CPU.

Don't do this. Use AppleScript to watch for changes, instead of polling.

> I decided to steal this feature and make the "coffee break" button. It locks the laptop and switches the screen off.

Press the power button.

Not offense, and I'm sure you enjoy your setup, but I really think it would do you well to learn a bit more about why your computer was designed that way rather than writing a rant online and spending time making it "just right".

EDIT: it looks like this comment is pretty controversial, since it's flip-flopping between ±5 points rapidly. Let me give a more detailed response.

Personally, I don't have a computer with a Touch Bar. I have, however, used one a borrowed one for a couple days. Personally, I would be fine switching (there are other issues with the MacBook Pro that are preventing me, but that's a story for another day).

I don't use the function keys that often, so I don't feel as if I'm "losing out" on them. Many of the supposed grievances that I normally hear are easily solvable ("oh, I didn't know I could control the volume slider without lifting my finger", "I didn't know I could add sleep to the Touch Bar"). Really, I think the main issue with the Touch Bar is people view it as a second screen rather than an extra set of controls as it's supposed to be. The Touch Bar is meant as a place to have surface extra controls that would be nice to have at your fingertips; what it is not is a place to show you data or be a Dock or menu bar or Notification Center or Activity Monitor. Why? Because you're not always looking down at it. There's no point putting any significant information there.

That being said, Touch Bar is not perfect, of course. It's a nice idea, but it could be improved if it provided more tactile feedback (e.g. haptic feedback, some sort of dynamic change in texture). And given that it's new, Apple's guidelines, while good, may end up changing as real-world usage influences them. Overall, though, I feel that much of the Touch Bar criticism is based on knee-jerk reactions or issues that are not difficult to resolve. Yes, there are some deeper issues, as I've outlined above, but I think the concept as a whole is interesting.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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post #6

How about abandoning the Touch Bar instead? Apple should ditch it entirely, or at least make it optional on all MacBook Pro models.

Agreed. It might bring some marginal convenience but overall feels like a gimmick. I'd rather just have a normal keyboard with an Esc key.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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The Touchbar has been mostly a dud for me, and I don't miss it when using my older MBP. I have customized by touch bar to include my favorite actions such as locking the screen, but it is otherwise static. My 2 biggest issues are: - It turns off after 1 min of inactivity, and find it infuriating that I have to wake it up by before using it. Effectively making everything 2 interactions away. - No haptic feedback. Even…

Primary reason it turns off is because its oled, and leaving it on would cause burn-in.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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post #4

I’ve been using the 2016 MacBook TouchBar for little over a year now and feel the same pains as mentioned in the article: > As a machine, MacBook Pro is great. But not because of the Touch Bar. Touch Bar is an inflamed appendix, the same dumb shit as Siri. If Apple had implemented it as an additional row and not the F-keys replacement, everyone would forget about it in a couple of days. At least Siri doesn’t get in t…

You may already know this but you can just tap and hold on one of the brightness or volume buttons and just slide the way you want and the button morphs into a slider. I find it is much quicker and more accurate to use the sliders on the touch bar as a result of this. You don’t even need to pause after the tap with your finger down, just tap and slide your finger around and the slider is there.

> You may already know this but you can just tap and hold on one of the brightness or volume buttons and just slide the way you want and the button morphs into a slider.

Yes, this is actually one of the few things I actively like about the touch bar.

I love that Apple is trying something new with laptops, but sadly it's been mostly a dud for me too. I'd take Face ID + a T2 chip (like iMac Pro) any day. The fundamental problem is you don't tend to look at the keyboard when you're using a computer; there isn't enough incentive to do so, so it always feels a bit like a chore to use.

I think there's a kernel of a good idea here, but the current implementation isn't it.

Edit: Reading this article, I've realized all I really want from the touch bar is a permanent Dock. The Dock is important enough to always be on your screen, and it'd be really useful to have at a touch.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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post #19
post #8

Thanks, I have been dreading the upcoming time when my pre-touchbar macbook pro is too old and I will check out these tips when it does. One bit of feedback: > RAM usage: Useless. In modern OS it's always nearly 100%. That's natural. A good ram usage indicator is still really useful, and along with cpu and network usage it's one of the first things I install on any machine. The issue is that your indicator needs to s…

> This makes it clear when some app is starting to blow up and consume a huge amount. And how often does that actually happen anymore, really? Yes, Chrome and friends are memory hogs, but a constant RAM indicator? If a MacBook (or any other device for that matter) starts swapping, you'll know right away.

> And how often does that actually happen anymore, really

Pretty often, especially if you open an app that decides to allocate a lot of memory very quickly (Xcode, VirtualBox) or when you switch to an app that causes a lot of memory to be swapped in.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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I’ve been living with a touchbar machine for about two months now, and the only useful thing about it for me is the touchid spot. Escape, slow as hell. Brushing the touchbar and bringing up the man app on some random argument, useless and annoying. It’s gotten a lot better now that I’ve switched it from context to function keys, and am using an external keyboard 95% of the time. It’s really my third favorite laptop t…

I can live with all of the half-baked features of the latest MBPs (I have one for work, my home one is much older) but the false recognition of the overly large touchpad drives me crazy.

It's bad enough that I have to disable tap-to-click (which I greatly preferred - much more elegant) and it still mis-clicks if I rest my hands on it.

I used to think the MBP trackpads were a cut above everything else - now they're too big and the palm rejection is not good enough.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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post #6

How about abandoning the Touch Bar instead? Apple should ditch it entirely, or at least make it optional on all MacBook Pro models.

If anything it should be build into the trackpad/expand the track bad the full width?

I've seen some fan renders where the trackpad is being used with the apple pencil, definitely something I could see apple doing.

Re: Making the Touch Bar useful by abandoning Apple guidelines

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post #19
post #8

Thanks, I have been dreading the upcoming time when my pre-touchbar macbook pro is too old and I will check out these tips when it does. One bit of feedback: > RAM usage: Useless. In modern OS it's always nearly 100%. That's natural. A good ram usage indicator is still really useful, and along with cpu and network usage it's one of the first things I install on any machine. The issue is that your indicator needs to s…

> This makes it clear when some app is starting to blow up and consume a huge amount. And how often does that actually happen anymore, really? Yes, Chrome and friends are memory hogs, but a constant RAM indicator? If a MacBook (or any other device for that matter) starts swapping, you'll know right away.

Multiple times a week. And yes, Chrome and the Chrome-devilspawn (Slack) are frequently to blame, but are not the only bad actors.

I use iStat Menus for that stuff. Working without various monitors seems to me a lot like doing without speedometers and gas gauges.

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