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Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by pronoiac » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 3:55 PM UTC

"Pharo is a pure object-oriented programming language in the tradition of Smalltalk. It offers a unique developing experience in constant interaction with live objects. ... When programming in Pharo, you are immersed in a world of live objects. You have immediate feedback at any moment of your development on objects representing web applications, code itself, graphics, network."

Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 3:56 PM UTC

daveFNbuck wrote: post #10

jayonsoftware wrote: post #5

Even if you are not going to develop any major apps in Smalltalk, its a language worth learning. Teaches you a lot about OO programming

Isn't Pharo a different language from Smalltalk?

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Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by monocasa » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 3:59 PM UTC

daveFNbuck wrote: post #10

jayonsoftware wrote: post #5

Even if you are not going to develop any major apps in Smalltalk, its a language worth learning. Teaches you a lot about OO programming

Isn't Pharo a different language from Smalltalk?

That's sort of like asking if Scheme is a different language than Lisp.

Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 4:01 PM UTC

monocasa wrote: post #13

daveFNbuck wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Pharo a different language from Smalltalk?

That's sort of like asking if Scheme is a different language than Lisp.

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Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by leoc » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 4:01 PM UTC

daveFNbuck wrote: post #10

jayonsoftware wrote: post #5

Even if you are not going to develop any major apps in Smalltalk, its a language worth learning. Teaches you a lot about OO programming

Isn't Pharo a different language from Smalltalk?

It started out as a fork of Squeak; IDK how much it has diverged since then.

Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 4:02 PM UTC

daveFNbuck wrote: post #10

jayonsoftware wrote: post #5

Even if you are not going to develop any major apps in Smalltalk, its a language worth learning. Teaches you a lot about OO programming

Isn't Pharo a different language from Smalltalk?

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Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by evv » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 4:10 PM UTC

Random off-topic feedback: the video is not correctly configured in Firefox (on MacOS). The pervasiveness of Chrome scares me sometimes.

Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by dunham » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 4:11 PM UTC

monocasa wrote: post #3

cosarara97 wrote: post #2

This is kind of an offtopic question, but regardless: Is there any application written in smalltalk in the debian repository? (or any other linux distro)

The only people I've heard of using Smalltalk at all other than in dogfood situations are people using Gemstone. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone_(database)

Way back in the day, "DabbleDB" was written in Smalltalk. (It was a Zenkit/Airtable type web app.)

If I remember right, they had a separate image per customer and it took a moment to bring up the VM if hadn't been to the site in a while.

Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by cosarara » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 4:33 PM UTC

evv wrote: post #17

Random off-topic feedback: the video is not correctly configured in Firefox (on MacOS). The pervasiveness of Chrome scares me sometimes.

It works here on firefox (linux).

Re: Pharo MOOC

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Post by agumonkey » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 4:56 PM UTC

leoc wrote: post #15

daveFNbuck wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Pharo a different language from Smalltalk?

It started out as a fork of Squeak; IDK how much it has diverged since then.

Don't know either, but the pharo MOOC I did a few years back only mentioned differences once or twice. I left with the feeling that beside a few, maybe syntax tweaks and new libs, it's 'same' enough.