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AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by O_H_E »

letsgetsilly wrote: post #37
VladTheImplier wrote: post #3

Lovely news! This is my next CPU after many years of my trusty FX8350@4.8 GHz. Last time I waited for the second revision of the architecture to avoid the usual launch hurdles. Christmas is apparently coming in April this year.

Same here. As a web developer and gamer it's hard to ignore the Intel lineup, but I'm a big fan of supporting the under-dog, and it makes it easy when there's so much value packed in. I assume that motherboards with new chipsets will be released as well, but I've heard less about them.

The Ryzen 2 lineup should work on the same AM4 socket, AMD claims that the newer X470 chipset will give better performance.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by joenathanone »

pdabbadabba wrote: post #62
linuxftw wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I regret every bit of it. Why make a statement without even one item of support as to why you regret it? The ASUS board problem sounds inconvenient, to say the least, but the way your phrased it implies it doesn't effect you in particular. Comments on a popular online electronics retailer's website seem to be positive for this model.

I'm pretty sure he regretted it because "[w]e still don't have any motherboards that support it well."

What does that mean exactly?

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by nobleach »

jdietrich wrote: post #51
nobleach wrote: post #4

As someone who purchased (early adopted) the Ryzen 5 2400g APU a couple of days after release, I regret every bit of it. We still don't have any motherboards that support it well. I've heard the ASUS boards do okay but they have to be flashed to a new BIOS version (with a different processor in the socket). I'm glad that folks like the hype, but the reality is just terrible.

The launch of Ryzen G was undoubtedly botched, but AMD did offer a CPU loan program for anyone who needed it: https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-will-lend-you-an-older-processor...

Isn't that for updating the bios on a board that won't boot with a Ryzen in the socket? It's a 10 day loan.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by nobleach »

linuxftw wrote: post #34
nobleach wrote: post #4

As someone who purchased (early adopted) the Ryzen 5 2400g APU a couple of days after release, I regret every bit of it. We still don't have any motherboards that support it well. I've heard the ASUS boards do okay but they have to be flashed to a new BIOS version (with a different processor in the socket). I'm glad that folks like the hype, but the reality is just terrible.

> I regret every bit of it. Why make a statement without even one item of support as to why you regret it? The ASUS board problem sounds inconvenient, to say the least, but the way your phrased it implies it doesn't effect you in particular. Comments on a popular online electronics retailer's website seem to be positive for this model.

No, I've heard good things about the ASUS. The ASRock (which is what I bought) is absolutely terrible. I regret buying the ASRock because I now have a computer that freezes constantly. It's not related to processor load or heat. It simply just doesn't work well at all. Sometimes an hour, sometimes 5 minutes....

I'm hoping I'm phrasing this well enough.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by nobleach »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #33
nobleach wrote: post #4

As someone who purchased (early adopted) the Ryzen 5 2400g APU a couple of days after release, I regret every bit of it. We still don't have any motherboards that support it well. I've heard the ASUS boards do okay but they have to be flashed to a new BIOS version (with a different processor in the socket). I'm glad that folks like the hype, but the reality is just terrible.

Other than the BIOS issue I have had no problems with the Ryzen 5 2400G. I have an ASRock board. I tried running Warframe on only the APU but I think I need more memory which is very expensive so I put in an GTX 650. If memory prices go down I should be able to use it with only the processor.

I did 16gigs of 3200. Be careful as the processor will only support 2400 or 2600Mhz (I can't remember off the top of my head) I don't mind the actual layout or operation of the BIOS. I did have to upgrade it to recognize my M2 NVMe. I've just been trying anything I can to get the thing stable.... to no avail.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by nobleach »

IronBacon wrote: post #58
whalesalad wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But needing a different chip in the socket? That’s definitely not common and for many not even possible.

AMD offered a kit to update the BIOS, basically they sent a previous generation CPU to flash the BIOS. On the other hand, with new Intel CPUs you would need new mainboards... ^__^;

Yes, and kudos to AMD for even doing it. But, it's a two week from acceptance into the program to delivery (in some cases - a week in others).

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by locusm »

Carioca wrote: post #32
IronWolve wrote: post #19

Beating an 8700K and 7820x, not bad at all. Nice to see AMD giving Intel some competition again. Hopefully this leads intel to drop prices,

The 8700K's main draw over the Ryzens is single-core performance though.

Admittedly niche, but my main draw for the 8700K was Hackintosh compatibility.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by swindmill »

nobleach wrote: post #74
linuxftw wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I regret every bit of it. Why make a statement without even one item of support as to why you regret it? The ASUS board problem sounds inconvenient, to say the least, but the way your phrased it implies it doesn't effect you in particular. Comments on a popular online electronics retailer's website seem to be positive for this model.

No, I've heard good things about the ASUS. The ASRock (which is what I bought) is absolutely terrible. I regret buying the ASRock because I now have a computer that freezes constantly. It's not related to processor load or heat. It simply just doesn't work well at all. Sometimes an hour, sometimes 5 minutes.... I'm hoping I'm phrasing this well enough.

FWIW I am running a two week old Ryzen 5 2400G and ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac setup with rock solid stability under Windows 10. I did end up having to run my 3200MHz memory at 2933Mhz to avoid some issues. This is the max memory speed the CPU supports anyways so I don't consider it a large loss. The ASRock published memory QVL agrees with my finding that 3200MHz isn't stable with the specific memory I'm using. See https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming-ITXac...

What ASRock model are you using? Are you sure the culprit is the CPU or motherboard and not another component?

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by baybal2 »

I wish AMD will make newer generations of their desktop CPUs chipsetless just as their motherboard cores. For Intel, going for a separate chipset is a requirement dictated by their design process and big die sizes, for AMD, it is just a way to make an additional $10-$20 per CPU sale.

Chipsetless setup should allow for smaller motherboards with better POL setup.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by monochromatic »

socialist_coder wrote: post #67
monochromatic wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s also essentially impossible right now to buy a motherboard that isn’t tarted up with a bunch of stupid LED nonsense. (Unless you buy something low-end or server-grade.)

Not true. Asus and some other brands have Workstation class motherboards without the LEDs. https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Workstation-Products/

Fine if you want old stuff. None of those boards support Coffee Lake chips though.
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