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Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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I'm not quite clear on why people are choosing spotify over google play music - to me the google option is superior in UI and offerings (including ad-free youtube). Am I missing something? Is it just one runs better on iPhones or is more hip (like why people choose snapchat over instagram or something)?

Because I have 100+ playlist I've spent years making. Some of which have emotional value (playlist are date stamped)

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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post #47

I'm not quite clear on why people are choosing spotify over google play music - to me the google option is superior in UI and offerings (including ad-free youtube). Am I missing something? Is it just one runs better on iPhones or is more hip (like why people choose snapchat over instagram or something)?

> I'm not quite clear on why people are choosing spotify over google play music

Simple answer: I'm a tech literate person (I read HN and a dozen other sites) and I hadn't even heard of "google play music" until now.

So that's one reason.

The other is likely that Spotify is pretty aggressive with marketing here (Sweden). E.g. get a phone contract and you get a year of spotify etc. But the most important reason is probably that after manty years on a product you get some lock-in. Now I wouldn't switch if the product was 10% better or if the price was 10% lower unless many of my friends switched and I could also port all playlists etc.

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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Can you give an example of the larger library? Yeah I like the social feed. Wish you could get to it on mobile though.

GPM has a lack of some international artists. This Taiwanese artist is on Spotify but not Google Play Music. https://open.spotify.com/artist/2JBUyLiFvpFPWdZGqIGYLD?si=uq... https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/sr/crowd+lu Nothing except youtube, but that's just cheating. Same with this one. https://open.spotify.com/artist/0tNjyz75Px29Yuf1sjs25G https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/sr/cosmos+people

Google Play Music has Jay-Z, as far as my research shows. (unfortunately I can't check as I have Spotify due to their network affect roping me in through a family plan) Is it really fair to say Spotify has a bigger library outright?

Spotify claims to have 35m songs and GPM 40m. Not that that means much, either. The killer feature GPM has over Spotify is that you can upload your own tracks to fill the gaps wherever their library is lacking.

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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post #47

I'm not quite clear on why people are choosing spotify over google play music - to me the google option is superior in UI and offerings (including ad-free youtube). Am I missing something? Is it just one runs better on iPhones or is more hip (like why people choose snapchat over instagram or something)?

I like Google Play Music, a lot, but:

    - Google. Privacy.
    - trying to shove the Android/Material UI on iOS, such
      an impedance mismatch... I *hate* that.
    - no dedicated client on desktop (so, no offline mode)
    - the UI in the browser sucks (again, alien, and basically
      *negative* information density if it could be so)
    - uploading/downloading is a crapshoot[0] with official tools,
      and the API is unofficial so hacks[1] may be short-lived.
So, again, I like GPM (and GPMAA) a lot, but only on Android.

The only thing I miss in Spotify from GPMAA/Apple Music+iTunes Match is the digital locker for seamless syncing of music I own.

FTR, despite having a native UI and digital locker, I moved from Apple Music to Spotify because discovery and reliability were terrible.

[0]: official tools behave similarly to this: https://github.com/simon-weber/gmusicapi/issues/140

[1]: https://github.com/lloeki/ruby-skyjam

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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If the original investors want to sell their shares, I'm not sure it's a good sign?

VCs usually aim for very high ROI. Even if your investment still increases in value more than market rate interest rates, for a VC it might be more valuable to sell them to preserve its own metrics (each year you keep the shares, your average ROI decreases).

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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Small artists are great, but music and money to be made from music seems to be dominated by large artists. Could Spotify ever sign, say, Taylor Swift?

ask yourself 5 years ago: Could Netflix ever sign, say, Adam Sandler?

You mean as an exec? He'd be a better fit with Uber I'd have thought.

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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I don't think you understand how much power Disney has. They own all popular superhero movies. Nearly all well-known children's movies are owned by them. Star Wars now is their IP. Netflix has what? House of Cards (which was discontinued)? 30 other TV shows that range from okay to "people talk about it once or twice to their friends"? 5 movies that are produced slightly higher than a TV show with mostly mediocre rati…

You're right that Disney's IP is orders of magnitude better. But "Stranger Things" is much higher than 'people talk about it once or twice to their friends' (along with others like Black Mirror, Bojack Horseman, The Crown, Making a Murdered, etc.), though not on the level of Star Wars or Marvel obviously

not only that, but i watch those movies like they are meant to be watched, at cinema.

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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> A streaming service that has no Beatles, Pink Floyd, No Motown, No AC/DC etc is going to shed users pretty quickly. I disagree. I think for most people music is fungible; they just want something to listen to. I think Spotify can afford to have gaps in it's library. Sure, if a large enough portion of the music industry cut them off it would be an issue, but I don't think they're in imminent danger of that.

I think you underestimate the annoyance and frustration users feel when content disappears from their library. This is especially noticeable in playlists: when half of your favorite workout playlist suddenly disappears, it's not something you'll ignore easily. People pay Spotify a monthly subscription for the convenience of being able to listen to the music of their choosing, at the time and place of their choosing.…

Absolutely agree with your point. Happened to me a couple of times when the music just disappeared and I could not really understand the reason. Good, I am paying for a student (4.99 instead 9.99 per month), but it's still money and I expect the promised services to be fulfilled.
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