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It turns out that when an organization applies rules arbitrarily, they eventually piss off the wrong person.

Generally when you have any rules at all, you piss off people. Can't make everyone happy.

That's true, too. Do you think that unclear or arbitrary rules tend to aggravate individuals as often as rules that are clearly laid out, enforced evenly, and can be appealed?

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Looks like this is the culprit's website http://www.nasimesabz.com/index.html There are links to her (4?) youtube accounts, which have all been terminated. There's a link to her instagram, which has also been terminated, however there is a cached-copy here http://www.pictame.com/tag/yesilnasim

It's a pity that Google terminated those accounts - I don't know what scrutiny scares them. As for the lady, she seems to genuinely believe in veganism and fitness. Whatever weird things she did to propagate that seemed to be working (330K views?!!). Why she resorted to gun violence is much awaited.

I have never met her but my guess is that she is orthorexic with a narcissism disorder and few friends. Maybe many thousands of 'Facebook friends' which is no replacement for family and a small handful of real friends.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthorexia_nervosa

'Orthorexia' masquerades as veganism but is not the same thing.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a general principal, there is no logical or moral reason why a victim should be beyond blame. The goal should be to judge the situation fairly; just as much as you don't want to automatically blame the victim, neither should you automatically find the victim blameless.

Give me one good reason why blaming a random Google employee lunching in the cafeteria is "fair". (Disclaimer: I witnessed the shooting today, so not quite unbiased)

Just so we're clear, I'm not blaming a "random" Google employee, as you are suggesting. I don't want to downplay this tragedy, and I wouldn't say that anyone deserved it. It's horrible that you had to witness what happened, and I'm sorry to hear it.

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I have a theory about workplace shootings. American companies have a very pronounced dog-eat-dog culture. So much so that whole books have been written about the workplace asshole [1]. I'm wondering if some of the shootings can be explained as the workplace asshole going one step further and bringing his guns to work.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_No_Asshole_Rule

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#135

So looking at her videos on Telegram ( https://t.me/nasimesabz1 ), she was anti gun. She was a very weird individual with clear mental health issues. I don't even know what to make of most of her content on that channel.

I'm Iranian and she seems bizarre and it's quite clear from her videos that she is, well, not normal.

Not sure if that translates well and Americans would realize the same or not.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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Looks like this is the culprit's website http://www.nasimesabz.com/index.html There are links to her (4?) youtube accounts, which have all been terminated. There's a link to her instagram, which has also been terminated, however there is a cached-copy here http://www.pictame.com/tag/yesilnasim

Censorship works fast friend. I've already posted this, but was censored too. You need to showdead in your prefs to see such things.

We've built a private China for ourselves.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#137

Looks like this is the culprit's website http://www.nasimesabz.com/index.html There are links to her (4?) youtube accounts, which have all been terminated. There's a link to her instagram, which has also been terminated, however there is a cached-copy here http://www.pictame.com/tag/yesilnasim

That’s a style of web design I’ve seen before - lots of colors, different font sizes, wall of text rants... something about it screams mental instability. See Time Cube for an extreme example.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#138

I have a theory about workplace shootings. American companies have a very pronounced dog-eat-dog culture. So much so that whole books have been written about the workplace asshole [1]. I'm wondering if some of the shootings can be explained as the workplace asshole going one step further and bringing his guns to work. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_No_Asshole_Rule

How does that have anything to do with the shooting at YouTube? It comes off like you didn't even read beyond the headline. (yes, it's happened at a workplace, but this wasn't some disgruntled employee in the sense that you're making it out to be)

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#139

Firstly, my sympathies with the people at Youtube HQ. I have many, many friends in the bay area and so this kind of thing hits close to home. Secondly, I struggle when thinking about if we should give airtime to a shooter's grievances, or reasons. Or even mention who they are. I tend to be on the side of: don't give them any air time. And certainly, don't acquiesce to this type of behavior because it is almost by def…

>On the other hand, I have been hearing a lot about YouTube demonitization, censorship, etc. Should this shooting be a part of the discussion about censorship? Should YouTube and the tech community let it affect the discourse around censorship? I think the answer to this is clearly no. I feel like people here feel very strongly about censorship, so maybe they'll disagree. But I think we need to get a bit of perspecti…

Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with blood of tyrants. Sorry you can't see yourself as such.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#140

Firstly, my sympathies with the people at Youtube HQ. I have many, many friends in the bay area and so this kind of thing hits close to home. Secondly, I struggle when thinking about if we should give airtime to a shooter's grievances, or reasons. Or even mention who they are. I tend to be on the side of: don't give them any air time. And certainly, don't acquiesce to this type of behavior because it is almost by def…

There are correct ways to start a discourse around censorship. Shooting people is not one of them.

Seems like a great way to start a discourse.
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