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Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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The rental car insurance benefit already covered $2600 worth of damage when a rental car I had got banged up a bit. I also get a $300 travel credit a year.

Your normal car insurance covers rental cars.

not overseas, and has a deductible. I used a generic travel credit card and it covered my rental damage once, now I make sure to use such a card whenever I rent.

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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> If they'd use Docker with React this would have never happened! It's probably because they wrote it in Go. Did you know Go doesn't even have generics?

What do you mean? Go has generics. Kind of. https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/5penft/parallelizing_...

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Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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I was on a plane just about to push back at Heathrow, and the pilot informed us we'd be delayed 15 minutes due to this failure. In the end it was 10 minutes, and we landed only 5 minutes late at my destination. Doesn't appear to have been a big deal, at least for me.

I wonder if that is due to Heathrow using Time-Based Separation software.

https://www.airport-technology.com/news/optimised-runway-too...

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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I was at a conference in Northern Virginia some months ago and saw a presentation from the folks at Upside, a startup specializing in booking business travel. They described the legacy system which handles pretty much all booking in the US, a system called SABRE. They described it as an ancient 6-bit computer system in Texas with no modern API. Everything they do tech-wise is a modern wrapper around that system. So I'm not at all surprised by any air travel computer failures if tech like that is central to the system.

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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I was at a conference in Northern Virginia some months ago and saw a presentation from the folks at Upside, a startup specializing in booking business travel. They described the legacy system which handles pretty much all booking in the US, a system called SABRE. They described it as an ancient 6-bit computer system in Texas with no modern API. Everything they do tech-wise is a modern wrapper around that system. So I…

Wow. I remember sabre from genie- General Electric Network Information Exchange. In the 1980s. I’m not sure compuserve was invented yet. My father and I could use “electronic mail” to stay in touch. For you youngsters: I hsd never yet had a “remote control” for a tv yet. Yep. Had to get up to sdjust the volume or change the channel (don’t get me started on adjusting the antenna).

Wish I didn’t know this.

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

#58

I was at a conference in Northern Virginia some months ago and saw a presentation from the folks at Upside, a startup specializing in booking business travel. They described the legacy system which handles pretty much all booking in the US, a system called SABRE. They described it as an ancient 6-bit computer system in Texas with no modern API. Everything they do tech-wise is a modern wrapper around that system. So I…

I've heard of enough misguided "modernisations" (and failures thereof) that I think the "legacy system" was the part that stayed working throughout, and it's the newer stuff added around it that failed. The old stuff may be old but there's a reason it's old... it's outlasted any attempts at replacing it.

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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Why? Sure, the skies are more and more crowded, meaning more and more people will be affected by a once-in-20 year failure, but why would it happen more and more common?

Well the archaic systems are getting older and older. From what I've heard it's almost impossible to get replacement parts for some of the computer systems that run airports/airlines.

Was this failure caused by a hardware fault?

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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post #57

I was at a conference in Northern Virginia some months ago and saw a presentation from the folks at Upside, a startup specializing in booking business travel. They described the legacy system which handles pretty much all booking in the US, a system called SABRE. They described it as an ancient 6-bit computer system in Texas with no modern API. Everything they do tech-wise is a modern wrapper around that system. So I…

Wow. I remember sabre from genie- General Electric Network Information Exchange. In the 1980s. I’m not sure compuserve was invented yet. My father and I could use “electronic mail” to stay in touch. For you youngsters: I hsd never yet had a “remote control” for a tv yet. Yep. Had to get up to sdjust the volume or change the channel (don’t get me started on adjusting the antenna). Wish I didn’t know this.

And it was already ancient then! Sabre started operating in 1960, and traces its origins to a chance meeting of an IBM salesman and the CEO of American Airlines on a flight in 1953.
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