Maybe I'm too cynical, but also looks like a nice way to e-vade taxes?
One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
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Re: One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it bad if they just fall by the wayside? If one puts forth zero effort, they should get zero reward.
It never ceases to amaze me how most people in capitalist (all) countries continue to work under the folk-belief of a labor theory of value. How much effort you put in has, at best, a second order relation to reward. Far stronger effects are supply, demand, mechanism of action, distribution of initial resources, and social factors.
I thought the idea of a labor theory of value wasn't related to the actual effort you put in, but more that value is related to how much average social labor would be currently invested to acquire or produce something. So if you have a machine you can pull a lever to produce 10 items in 1 second, each of those items acquires 1/10th of a human-second of value.
I get though that those other conditions matter more in terms of the actual price though. Marx distinguished between "value", "use-value", and "exchange-value", the latter being price, the second being required for value or exchange value, and the first being used as the basis of comparison between goods. I took it to mean that exchange value is like temperature while value is like heat.
Can you elaborate? I'd like to know more about how these different theories interact.
Re: One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
if they were prone to revolution, you'd think "get a danged job" would be the path of least resistance (pun fully intended).
Again... As per my other response re: your apparent implicit belief in a labor theory of value, now you're espousing the implicit belief that a labor market must tend towards full employment, and at a wage level that makes revolution unattractive. If I might make the observation, your positions seem to be littered with false beliefs/understandings. I'm assuming another one of those false beliefs would be that you'd b…
You must be exacerbated... so I apologize. But, what exactly is false about this. It stands to reason that getting a job sounds a lot easier than starting a revolution for most people.
Re: One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
#34Given the date I thought this might be fake, but it seems the program is real: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Residency_of_Estonia That said, the article also claims "Shinto" Abe was the first person to enter the program, but besides mispelling his name I can't find any other reference to him being involved with it at all.
Technically, it only claimed he was the first prime minister to do so, but the sentence was ambiguous.
Ah, you're right - my mistake.
Re: One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
"fall by the wayside" is a bit hand wavy. Do you mean they become poor, broke, with nothing to loose, ripe for a revolution? Or that they are killed by automated drones when they come over the fence of your/my/our/their gated community?
Indeed. We all know "fall by the wayside" means "starve homeless." At least in countries like America.
Despite the propaganda, statistically the United States has one of the lowest starvation rates on Earth at .58/100,000 - half that of Norway.
The majority are not homeless but rather shut-ins, uncared-for elderly or suffering from other mental health issues.
Re: One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
"fall by the wayside" is a bit hand wavy. Do you mean they become poor, broke, with nothing to loose, ripe for a revolution? Or that they are killed by automated drones when they come over the fence of your/my/our/their gated community?
Indeed. We all know "fall by the wayside" means "starve homeless." At least in countries like America.
Who's starving?
Re: One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
#37Correction: Japan PMs name is Shinzo Abe (not Shinto)
Re: One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it bad if they just fall by the wayside? If one puts forth zero effort, they should get zero reward.
It sounds like you are not a fan of landlords or am I misunderstanding something.
Setting up a rental is actually a lot of work that is upfront and has a ton of risk. You also need to pay taxes, so it's not based on effort at steady state. Steady state is based on cashflow management.
Re: One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, in your world, the best software developer gets paid the most (gold), the second best gets paid less (silver), the third best gets paid the least (bronze), and everybody else works as slaves because they're losers.
There's capitalism in a nutshell. Except first prize was granted by your parents and upbringing. Second prize was partially because of parents and upbringing, but with a bit more luck. And bronze? Yeah, well they're just lazy and bad and they deserve what little they have - cause the Gold and Silver earned what they have.
And this goes all the way back to the proverbial Adam and Eve?
Don't we then all have the same ancestors and therefore all equal opportunity?
Re: One of Estonia's first "e-residents" explains what it means
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, in your world, the best software developer gets paid the most (gold), the second best gets paid less (silver), the third best gets paid the least (bronze), and everybody else works as slaves because they're losers.
There's capitalism in a nutshell. Except first prize was granted by your parents and upbringing. Second prize was partially because of parents and upbringing, but with a bit more luck. And bronze? Yeah, well they're just lazy and bad and they deserve what little they have - cause the Gold and Silver earned what they have.
Suppose a average married couple had a child and also adopted a rock. By your reasoning, the rock would perform exactly as their living breathing child, right?