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Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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I was on a plane just about to push back at Heathrow, and the pilot informed us we'd be delayed 15 minutes due to this failure. In the end it was 10 minutes, and we landed only 5 minutes late at my destination. Doesn't appear to have been a big deal, at least for me.

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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Well the archaic systems are getting older and older. From what I've heard it's almost impossible to get replacement parts for some of the computer systems that run airports/airlines.

And on the other hand, there are massive requirements at all levels for this kind of software. I'm not sure what the right answer is at that point. From dev-experience, I wouldn't want half-assed software directing flights. From ops-experience, I don't want software directing flights requiring specific hardware so you can just replace the hardware with easily available hardware.

From dev-experience I would be surprised if SpaceX rockets run with decades old assembler code-base.

I still believe we can create bug-free solution with modern toolset. It's a matter of zeros behind the project funding.

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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Why? Sure, the skies are more and more crowded, meaning more and more people will be affected by a once-in-20 year failure, but why would it happen more and more common?

Well the archaic systems are getting older and older. From what I've heard it's almost impossible to get replacement parts for some of the computer systems that run airports/airlines.

Not sure about aviation, but in other industries they virtualize the old hardware on a new architecture, and keep the software going.

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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For those curious, Eurocontrol MUAC (Maastricht Upper Area Control Center) migrated to 50 virtual SUSE Linux Enterprise servers running under IBM z/VM hypervisor on a IBM z196 mainframe system in 2013.

Does any of this effect the nature of the failure? Have they said what went wrong?

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And on the other hand, there are massive requirements at all levels for this kind of software. I'm not sure what the right answer is at that point. From dev-experience, I wouldn't want half-assed software directing flights. From ops-experience, I don't want software directing flights requiring specific hardware so you can just replace the hardware with easily available hardware.

From dev-experience I would be surprised if SpaceX rockets run with decades old assembler code-base. I still believe we can create bug-free solution with modern toolset. It's a matter of zeros behind the project funding.

That's a good point. I'm just a bit disillusioned with the quality of some of the legacy stuff at my current place. Especially because robustness and probability of failures is mostly determined by requirements.

Re: Half of European flights delayed due to system failure

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For those curious, Eurocontrol MUAC (Maastricht Upper Area Control Center) migrated to 50 virtual SUSE Linux Enterprise servers running under IBM z/VM hypervisor on a IBM z196 mainframe system in 2013.

anywhere we can read up on this? :)
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