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Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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There are certain browser APIs disabled in the browser in incognito mode that can be detected. How else would you implement incognito mode?

That's interesting. Why are the storage APIs disabled, instead of just using ephemeral storage that goes away when the window is cleared?

It's less work to disable them. There's likely already an API access control system in place, for internal-only APIs, testing, etc.

Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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By sandboxing, e.g. localStorage fully functional but deleted at the end of the session...

Mozilla recently released containerized tabs[0], I imagine the next logic step is building containerized Private Browsing Mode [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

My understanding is that things actually went the other way. Private browsing came first, then the same approach was used to create more labels than just "private" and not "private". I think more features may be turned off in private browsing mode though.

Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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For those who are unfamiliar with the general concept, there are several organizations that will be happy to take large sums of money from you, for a scientifically sketchy claim at resurrection at some future unknown date. https://www.google.ca/search?q=alcor+cryonics&oq=alcor+cryon...

Given that the main alternatives (decomposing in a box or being cremated) involve a 0% chance of resuscitation at some future unknown date, cryonics seems like the rational choice to make. Alcor has so far shown itself to be a fairly reliable cryonics provider and the sums of money are not extreme - neuropreservation being only $80,000, or a life insurance policy of ~$30-$150/month.

Even if it fails, if the promise of a chance to be revived at some point allows you or your loved ones to be more at peace with your mortality it seems worth it for the relatively minor cost.

Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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What specific claims does, e.g. Alcor, make that are scientifically sketchy? Just the implication that resurrection might be possible sometime in the future?

Resurrection, while not impossible , is sufficiently unlikely that taking people's money while promising it-- even with a disclaimer that it is not guaranteed-- seems exploitative, akin to people promising homeopathic cancer remedies. It is preying on people's fear of death.

Homeopathy is a false analogy as it is outright dangerous, where cryonics is not.

I don't think it is 'preying' on the fear of death. A It seems appealing to me to come to terms with mortality while also being able to have some small hope that you will get lucky and have another chance at life.

Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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MITs statement seems to position themselves to not be at risk if the startup goes south. They seem to think that with current technology it is unclear if the upload is feasible. Also, it would be interesting for someone to comment on how this embalming process is done? From what I know from cryogenic freezing or preservation is that it is a good idea that it could be "scanned" back in but most likely the information…

It sounds like people are essentially donating their brains to (private) science, with the off-chance that they may come back.

The marketing thereof as something else doesn't sound quite ethical to me. It's downright ghastly if people are dying earlier because of this.

Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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For those who are unfamiliar with the general concept, there are several organizations that will be happy to take large sums of money from you, for a scientifically sketchy claim at resurrection at some future unknown date. https://www.google.ca/search?q=alcor+cryonics&oq=alcor+cryon...

And if that's not your cup of tea, there are non-scientific organizations that will be happy to take large sums of money from you for a sketchy claim at resurrection at some future unknown date.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vatican

Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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First time seeing a website checking for private mode: > Hello, > We noticed you're browsing in private or incognito mode. > To continue reading this article, please exit incognito mode or log in. > Why we made this change > Visitors are allowed 3 free articles per month (without a subscription), and private browsing prevents us from counting how many stories you've read. > We hope you understand, and consider subscr…

That's so stupid. There's nothing stopping anyone from browsing 3 articles and then clear the cookies...

Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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That's interesting. Why are the storage APIs disabled, instead of just using ephemeral storage that goes away when the window is cleared?

It's less work to disable them. There's likely already an API access control system in place, for internal-only APIs, testing, etc.

It also means sites can avoid promising to do things that aren't actually possible, like saving information for access next time.

Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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If hundreds of millions of people were to do this, what economic, cultural or religious incentive do people have 500 years from now to resurrect anyone? Maybe people who were famous geniuses, sure, but with my view of human nature I get the impression that unless the resurrection process is extremely low cost and easy, nobody will go to the effort to bring back the consciousness of huge numbers of random people. This could change, sure, such as if a major world religion made a profound shift to bringing back your ancestors for ideological reasons. The chance of that happening is slim.

Re: MIT severs ties to company promoting fatal brain uploading

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First time seeing a website checking for private mode: > Hello, > We noticed you're browsing in private or incognito mode. > To continue reading this article, please exit incognito mode or log in. > Why we made this change > Visitors are allowed 3 free articles per month (without a subscription), and private browsing prevents us from counting how many stories you've read. > We hope you understand, and consider subscr…

Or you can disable it with a query param: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610743/mit-severs-ties-to...

Interesting that this works with any query parameter: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610743/mit-severs-ties-to...
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