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Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by drakenot »

Aardwolf wrote: post #18

> It also comes with a clear fan, for better RGB light illumination than its predecessor which only had an RGB ring. How did the RGB naming trend get started? Rgb leds and colorful illuminated gaming pc's both already existed for decades. But only recently I saw the name RGB pop up in motherboards, keyboards, etc... as if it's something new

I recently built a new PC so I had to wade into this space again. The main difference I believe is that many components themselves now have their own LED lighting.

Before, it was primarily LED fans or light strips. Now, motherboards have their own LED line traces. Ram has it's own LED lights. There is also support to control the colors of these components from software.

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Post by jannes »

Aardwolf wrote: post #18

> It also comes with a clear fan, for better RGB light illumination than its predecessor which only had an RGB ring. How did the RGB naming trend get started? Rgb leds and colorful illuminated gaming pc's both already existed for decades. But only recently I saw the name RGB pop up in motherboards, keyboards, etc... as if it's something new

That naming has been used for a few years already. I'm not sure how it started.

For example, this Linus Tech Tips video about the first RGB backlit mechanical keyboard from 4 years ago uses the term:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-GjMH8kQlc

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by nobleach »

agumonkey wrote: post #10
nobleach wrote: post #4

As someone who purchased (early adopted) the Ryzen 5 2400g APU a couple of days after release, I regret every bit of it. We still don't have any motherboards that support it well. I've heard the ASUS boards do okay but they have to be flashed to a new BIOS version (with a different processor in the socket). I'm glad that folks like the hype, but the reality is just terrible.

what would a good motherboard support bring ? (open question)

Processor support? Voltages set reasonably. Just a decent burn in period before sending it out the door. Currently I'm running an ASRock B350M Pro4... and I can't keep that thing running more than 30 minutes. It's not high load that causes the freezing. It's just terrible on every front.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by kmfrk »

Aardwolf wrote: post #18

> It also comes with a clear fan, for better RGB light illumination than its predecessor which only had an RGB ring. How did the RGB naming trend get started? Rgb leds and colorful illuminated gaming pc's both already existed for decades. But only recently I saw the name RGB pop up in motherboards, keyboards, etc... as if it's something new

I think a part of it is the Instagram/Twitch mentality where publicly performing or sharing something plays into things now.

Easier to take photos of your computer and share them if they look like a cryogenic chamber. :)

In addition, a lot of companies are going "full stack" for computers, and a system-wide RGB integration/syncing for Company X's components (RAM, motherboard, graphics card, case, fan controller, fans, mouse, keyboard, mousemat(!)) is a simple way to lock in customers.

EDIT: You could also argue that we're at an inflection point where videogames and tech nerdiness are normalized to the point where computer cases, like TVs once were, are now considered furniture and not some heinous eyesore you're forced to have around.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by agumonkey »

nobleach wrote: post #23
agumonkey wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what would a good motherboard support bring ? (open question)

Processor support? Voltages set reasonably. Just a decent burn in period before sending it out the door. Currently I'm running an ASRock B350M Pro4... and I can't keep that thing running more than 30 minutes. It's not high load that causes the freezing. It's just terrible on every front.

erf, damning indeed

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by prolepunk »

nobleach wrote: post #4

As someone who purchased (early adopted) the Ryzen 5 2400g APU a couple of days after release, I regret every bit of it. We still don't have any motherboards that support it well. I've heard the ASUS boards do okay but they have to be flashed to a new BIOS version (with a different processor in the socket). I'm glad that folks like the hype, but the reality is just terrible.

I got it running on asrock ab350 gaming-itx/ac issues found so far:

- No dual screen support (the board has 2xHDMI 1.4). The fix is in firmware 4.51A which is still in beta

- When installing debian needed to use vga=771 in the console

- X11 would freeze a few times but with Linux 4.15.0-2-amd64 that issue seem to have been fixed

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by caretStick »

drakenot wrote: post #21
Aardwolf wrote: post #18

> It also comes with a clear fan, for better RGB light illumination than its predecessor which only had an RGB ring. How did the RGB naming trend get started? Rgb leds and colorful illuminated gaming pc's both already existed for decades. But only recently I saw the name RGB pop up in motherboards, keyboards, etc... as if it's something new

I recently built a new PC so I had to wade into this space again. The main difference I believe is that many components themselves now have their own LED lighting. Before, it was primarily LED fans or light strips. Now, motherboards have their own LED line traces. Ram has it's own LED lights. There is also support to control the colors of these components from software.

> There is also support to control the colors of these components from software

This is the definitive characteristic. You have customizable color on "RGB" hardware. If you have three LED's to support changing color, you might as well go with RGB and use a software-defined color.

There is sometimes support for running all of the color changes from one piece of software but other times, you must reverse-engineer the commands yourself and write a central controller for it all. Could be a great pass-time. There's a tool for emitting the motherboard's bus commands along whatever standard, so if you figure out how to use the optional bits, you can make RAM glow in sync with the graphics card on an unsupported motherboard.

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by bazooka_penguin »

kevindqc wrote: post #6
mciancia wrote: post #2

Clickbait, overclocked Ryzen 7 2700X scores the same as i7 7820X. It's a bit different story

Is it overclocked though? The article says it was overclocked to 4.3GHz. But that CPU has a turbo clock of 4.2GHz [1]. So maybe a 0.1 GHz overclock at most? Or none at all? That Intel CPU has a turbo clock of 4.5GHz, so AMD beats Intel at a lower clock speed? But then I read that turbo clock only affects the two most used cores... I guess it's pretty hard to compare lol 1. https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/r…

The max turbo (xfr) is 4.35ghz. But it rarely hits that

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by monochromatic »

drakenot wrote: post #21
Aardwolf wrote: post #18

> It also comes with a clear fan, for better RGB light illumination than its predecessor which only had an RGB ring. How did the RGB naming trend get started? Rgb leds and colorful illuminated gaming pc's both already existed for decades. But only recently I saw the name RGB pop up in motherboards, keyboards, etc... as if it's something new

I recently built a new PC so I had to wade into this space again. The main difference I believe is that many components themselves now have their own LED lighting. Before, it was primarily LED fans or light strips. Now, motherboards have their own LED line traces. Ram has it's own LED lights. There is also support to control the colors of these components from software.

It’s also essentially impossible right now to buy a motherboard that isn’t tarted up with a bunch of stupid LED nonsense. (Unless you buy something low-end or server-grade.)

Re: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results

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Post by jacquesm »

nobleach wrote: post #4

As someone who purchased (early adopted) the Ryzen 5 2400g APU a couple of days after release, I regret every bit of it. We still don't have any motherboards that support it well. I've heard the ASUS boards do okay but they have to be flashed to a new BIOS version (with a different processor in the socket). I'm glad that folks like the hype, but the reality is just terrible.

That's why you typically wait to be 'second best' when new tech hits the market. In the current climate 'early adopter' should actually be interpreted as 'beta tester'.
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