Matrix.org/Riot.im has all the encryption you could wish for, a modern, useful interface, and a federated model in which everyone can run their own server and talk to everyone else, just like email.
Sunsetting Tor Messenger
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Re: Sunsetting Tor Messenger
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#13ricochet[1] is my preferred option for situations that would require something like tor messenger (which is very few situations, but I digress). I like that the UX has a built-in threat model (e.g. "do you really want to click on this?") TAILS users can't use it because tor-over-tor is weird (ricochet uses its own tor process). but it looks like it's getting close.[2] 1. https://ricochet.im/ 2. https://labs.riseup.ne…
That doesn't look very promising.
Re: Sunsetting Tor Messenger
#14Matrix.org/Riot.im has all the encryption you could wish for, a modern, useful interface, and a federated model in which everyone can run their own server and talk to everyone else, just like email.
As far as I remember you needed quite big servers if you wanted to "federate" with others, like join big chatroom because Matrix will try to replicate the history and keep it in sync. Is it still the case?
Re: Sunsetting Tor Messenger
#15ricochet[1] is my preferred option for situations that would require something like tor messenger (which is very few situations, but I digress). I like that the UX has a built-in threat model (e.g. "do you really want to click on this?") TAILS users can't use it because tor-over-tor is weird (ricochet uses its own tor process). but it looks like it's getting close.[2] 1. https://ricochet.im/ 2. https://labs.riseup.ne…
Re: Sunsetting Tor Messenger
#16ricochet[1] is my preferred option for situations that would require something like tor messenger (which is very few situations, but I digress). I like that the UX has a built-in threat model (e.g. "do you really want to click on this?") TAILS users can't use it because tor-over-tor is weird (ricochet uses its own tor process). but it looks like it's getting close.[2] 1. https://ricochet.im/ 2. https://labs.riseup.ne…
> The latest version is 1.1.4 (November 5, 2016) That doesn't look very promising.
Please see this comment by Sarah, https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet/issues/555#issuecomm...
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Hi, I don't speak for @special, but I think some context might be useful.
There is currently a bunch of (official|unofficial) work going on in the wider ecosystem - most of it related to factoring out the base library[1] to go to make it more useful as well as porting the main client to go[2].
There are also a few experiments regarding running on mobile[3] and using ricochet and these other libraries for other things besides traditional IM[4].
Most of this wider work has been updated within the last couple of weeks, ricochet is still actively being worked on & used - just not in the most visible places right now.
Some of the features you have pointed to are sitting waiting for someone to come along and design/write them. For most there is a lot of UX work that needs to be done in order for these features (layered crypto, hidden service auth, multiple profiles etc.) to be secure & useable.
In many cases, adding them to the new Go code might be preferable in terms of ease of implementation. That is partly why work is being put into the libraries there, to make new changes to ricochet as easy and as useful as possible. These libraries are also in development right now, and it may take a little while before everything comes together.
So the best thing people can do right now if they want to move these things along is to contribute to the discussions on the feature threads if they have ideas about how those features could work & to submit code/pull requests to the various code bases.
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Re: Sunsetting Tor Messenger
#17I find Tox[1] to be a reasonable messenger. [1] https://tox.chat/
There's a lot of shady stuff surrounding Tox though see: https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/issues/1379 Also: https://blog.tox.im/2016/04/01/litigation/ I rather support KeyBase or Wire (Open Source back-end exists and I think the clients are open source too!) as an alternative. I'm leaning cleanly toward Wire, though everyone I've suggested KeyBase to enjoys it. I like the free storage of KeyBase... sue me. Edit:…
i hoping for a fix soon.
Re: Sunsetting Tor Messenger
#18Would like to read, but it looks like my work is blocking access to torproject.org. I had not realized that this sort of blocking was in place. Gauntlet thrown. My project for today is now to gain access to Torproject on my work machine. Bonus points for installing and running Tor without elevated privileges.
https://via.hypothes.is/https://blog.torproject.org/sunsetti...
https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.torproject.org/suns...
> Bonus points for installing and running Tor without elevated privileges.
Try https://github.com/TheTorProject/GetTorBrowser then use meek-amazon as a pluggable transport to get it working if your network censors Tor traffic.
Re: Sunsetting Tor Messenger
#19Retroshare now provides a Tor version: https://retroshareteam.wordpress.com/2018/03/13/release-note... > Running Retroshare over Tor has a number of definite advantages: it does not require firewall management (Tor does it for you); you do not need a DHT to find your friends (Tor does it for you), and whatever code is tied to ensuring security of your IP information is not needed anymore.
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#20Even more interestingly the EFF has stopped trying to recommend the best one and instead is encouraging the users to do their own reasearch (even redirects old urls[2])