I used to be a data engineer at an ad tech company, Blis. A huge proportion of the GPS data we relied upon for retargeting and enrichment of the bids came from Grindr, but even so we almost never bid on traffic from them, the brands we worked with were opposed to being associated with that app. So we benefited a lot from Grindr data without giving much back.
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#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
> regulation hampers growth Is there proof of this? Some countries like Germany and Sweden are both highly regulated and have fastest economic growth in the West.
Who's growing is the more important question. Regulation benefits the already big.
> Regulation benefits the already big
That generalization is pretty obviously wrong. The vast body of antitrust regulation is designed precisely to hurt the "already big". Regulations around net neutrality would also fall into the category of helping the little guy far more than a big player. Regulation certainly can hamper smaller businesses, but it really depends on how the regulation is designed.
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#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, all regulation hurts economic growth. The mechanism is simple: regulatory compliance is a cost. If it's a fixed cost like most regulation, it becomes a barrier to entry. If it's a variable cost, it reduces labor productivity. HOWEVER, some regulation may improve net economic growth by improving the functioning of markets such that it overcomes the costs that compliance imposes. Therefore the discussion of regula…
Yes, all regulation hurts economic growth. The mechanism is simple: regulatory compliance is a cost. I've heard it said [1] that banning cigarette advertising is good for cigarette companies, as previously they had to compete to outspend one another to avoid losing market share. In other words, legislation moved competitors from an expensive Nash equilibrium to a cheap global optimum. Of course, this is a rare exampl…
Most cigarette brands are owned by a couple of huge tobacco companies like Philip Morris (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Morris_USA#Brands) and British American Tobacco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_American_Tobacco#Curre...). They are barely competing, just trying to attract different crowds under different brands and to make a premium on luxury brands.
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#274"shares" sounds too friendly.
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#275Does anyone have any information on how Scruff handles that information? Also, does HIPAA say anything about technology companies outside of the medical field's data that may voluntarily collect HIV status?
CEO of SCRUFF here, and daily reader of HN. We have not, do not, and would not share this information with third parties. The data that we share with our third-party ad providers is: - Your location (so you can get those local car dealer ads) - Your gender - Your age - The targeting keyword "gay" We currently use AdMob and MoPub to provide our network advertising. More broadly, this kind of information is never somet…
Is any of this data shared with third parties for paid users of the app?
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#276Even within its confines, Grindr's data are rich for blackmail. (Consider: images and messages sent and received within 100 feet of Capitol Hill.) It was recently acquired by an offshore billionaire [1]. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-12/china-tec...
Reminds me of the relationship between the Mafia and the homosexual community of the early-mid 20th century. The Mafia didn’t particularly like gays, but they ran all of the gay bars because it gave them the opportunity to blackmail their patrons.
The fact they could be blackmailed means the rest of the society didn't like them either. If a minority is doing something today that the rest of society thinks is wrong but actually isn't, then don't we have a more serious problem already by persecuting whoever is the modern equivalent of early 1900's gays?
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
The way in which the German government has been co-opted by the church to act as their debt collectors is fairly disgusting and no longer of this day and age.
I don't agree that such a tax is a good idea, but consider the following: 1. If it bothers the Germans, why don't they change it? Is there some concordat that makes it difficult? 2. Do I really have a right to comment given that I'm not German? Does it really makes sense for you to apply what are presumably post-revolution, secular French standards to Germany? 3. "co-opted by the church to act as their debt collector…
> If it bothers the Germans, why don't they change it? Is there some concordat that makes it difficult?
The church is still very powerful in Germany.
> Do I really have a right to comment given that I'm not German?
You have a right to your opinion about what is happening in a country even if you are not living there.
> Does it really makes sense for you to apply what are presumably post-revolution, secular French standards to Germany?
It is fairly exceptional to see the state harnessed to do a private institution's bidding like this.
> "co-opted by the church to act as their debt collectors " -- sounds conspiratorial. You think the Church is all-powerful and able to do that? Tithing isn't new.
That it isn't new doesn't mean there is a place for it today. The state and the church should be firmly separated. In Germany this is - not yet - the case.
> "disgusting and no longer of this day and age" -- appeals to time period are rather silly. We're not talking about fashion, and it's important not to fall prey to the Idol of Progress.
It's not the 15th century any more.
> Interesting that more religious countries, like Germany's neighbor Poland, have no such tax.
My point exactly.
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#278I see they have some instructions there for how they did it. Any chance anyone could make a small instructive tutorial, so we can start replicating this process for other apps as well?
Then we can put everything in a giant repo and make it publicly accessible information.
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How granular is the location data you share, on the scale from postcode to lat/lon?
For these third-party ad networks, they accept a lat/lng, so we (and I suspect most apps) just pass in a value obtained from the device. That said, upon further reflection, a local advertiser could surely get enough targeting information with a much, much less precise value...we'll look into making this change in a future release.
Weigh that privacy consideration against the value of CPGs looking to spend shopper marketing advertising dollars in-store, just sayin'...
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#280Even within its confines, Grindr's data are rich for blackmail. (Consider: images and messages sent and received within 100 feet of Capitol Hill.) It was recently acquired by an offshore billionaire [1]. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-12/china-tec...
Who needs to hack government systems anymore!?!?!?