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Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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Could you please source this claim? A quick google search is revealing a lot of contrary evidence.

Nicotine is considered a nootropic that increases cognitive ability. Perhaps the kids are using it to up regulate their brains? Studies here: https://www.selfhacked.com/blog/28-proven-health-benefits-ni...

From what I recall of being a kid, kids are using it to get social validation.

Also, because once you get addicted, nicotine withdrawal is bloody awful.

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Looking past the safety concerns, I personally have zero interest in vaping nicotine as an ex smoker.

A lot who have smoked and quit probably understand the pschological aspect; the constant need, the schedule, the loss of enjoyment from taking a deep breath of fresh air.. I don't want to be addicted to inhaling nicotine in any form.

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Cigarettes cause high rates of lung cancer, killing tons of people. It makes sense to heavily discourage teenagers from using them. As far as I am aware (I am not an expert about or user of any of these products) the risks from vaping are much less severe. Is the concern just that the activity is nominally unlawful? Or that it will be a “gateway drug” (is there any evidence of that)? Or that it is a waste of students…

Yeah I don't endorse vaping especially for young kids but it's better than smoking, and that was even allowed at my high school (in specific places). We've eliminated all the really worrying stuff but people like to worry about kids so now we're down to sugar and vaping. Of the two I'd bet sugar is a lot worse, long term. Though since vape juice is unregulated and kids probably buy the cheapest they can find, I'd won…

The good thing is that kids mostly use high quality vapes. For example, the Juul is cited as the most popular in the article. Other popular ones are Junos, Phixes, and Suorins. All of these have their own juices manufactured by the companies, and all these companies are pretty reputable to my knowledge. The Juul has succeeded in part because they designed their own pods that nobody else was producing, so they could guarantee high quality juices.

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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A generation ago these kids would've gotten busted for smoking old-fashioned cigarettes ("Smokin' in the boys room"). Two generations ago it was legal to buy (at some states at age 16) and legal to possess and use, except on school grounds. Three generations ago it was legal even in doctor's offices and hospitals. California and Massachusetts (and oddly enough, Mississippi) are stoking up a new hysteria with public h…

You must know that smoking rates have tanked all across California and particularly in urban areas. Maybe the advertising is meant to get ahead of the vaping 'problem', to get people to quit cold turkey rather than switching to vaping, or to prevent kids from vaping.

The fact that you see a few people smoking cigarettes outside an office building doesn't mean both of these campaigns didn't work.

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

#196

Why not just set the minimum birthdate to buy nicotine products at 2000, so only 18 year olds can buy it this year, and future generations cannot? Seems like that would sidestep the whole "removing people's rights" argument and gradually just phase it out completely? Has any jurisdiction done that?

Sure I mean a minimum age to buy cigarettes definitely kept teens off smoking for the past 50 years

Sorry for the sarcasm, but, like, what?

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nicotine is considered a nootropic that increases cognitive ability. Perhaps the kids are using it to up regulate their brains? Studies here: https://www.selfhacked.com/blog/28-proven-health-benefits-ni...

From what I recall of being a kid, kids are using it to get social validation. Also, because once you get addicted, nicotine withdrawal is bloody awful.

I'm always surprised that the main reason people smoke is not cited first.

For all you that haven't done it: smoking causes pleasure. A fast, intense and repeatable pleasure.

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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Semi-related, maybe there are some nicotine experts here that can help me: I smoked ~4 years light/social post high school. Dipped Copenhagen Pouches for ~10 years. I've tried to quite with some success with the longest streak being 2 years. It is incredibly hard and all in the mind. I found ZYN pouches last year and they have replaced my needs. It "... is a tobacco leaf-free nicotine product. The nicotine salt used…

Ask your doctor, not us.

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"Young hormonal teenagers seeking to rebel perform risky behavior with addictive substances" Maybe they should just sit in the chair and do what they're told instead

Not everyone is gifted with long-term attention. Our society is helpfully breeding that quality out of us.

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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post #194

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Yeah I don't endorse vaping especially for young kids but it's better than smoking, and that was even allowed at my high school (in specific places). We've eliminated all the really worrying stuff but people like to worry about kids so now we're down to sugar and vaping. Of the two I'd bet sugar is a lot worse, long term. Though since vape juice is unregulated and kids probably buy the cheapest they can find, I'd won…

The good thing is that kids mostly use high quality vapes. For example, the Juul is cited as the most popular in the article. Other popular ones are Junos, Phixes, and Suorins. All of these have their own juices manufactured by the companies, and all these companies are pretty reputable to my knowledge. The Juul has succeeded in part because they designed their own pods that nobody else was producing, so they could g…

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