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Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Problems Persist

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Re: Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Problems Persist

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Post by keyle »

I have no interest or involvment in Tesla. But from an outsider's perspective I can't help but notice that when you're this little company with no chance of making it, the press is very bulish about your company.

As soon as you become large, they look up at you and can't wait to see you fall, overly negative.

Who thought making cars was difficult? And mass production? And electrical cars, pushing the boundaries or batteries.

The light are still on in the factory, so the company's doing well.

Re: Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Problems Persist

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Post by jijojv »

Shivetya wrote: post #7
jijojv wrote: post #5

Learn much from overcommitting and under-delivering yet [1] Still waiting on the self-driving vaporware that thousands paid advance for... 1. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/823727035088416768 3 months maybe, 6 months definitely 23 Jan 2017

The NHTSA faulted Tesla for the last fatal crash and its likely they will get faulted for the current. I am just shocked that after this one that they haven't suspended its use. The level of chutzpah this company operates at is very dangerous to its future but the public as well. The production issues are a whole different can of worms but the autonomous driving accidents are what the public sees. People need to unde…

They don't have to suspend Autopilot as legally they can claim they require you to be fully alert at all times. Of-course this negates all benefits of Autopilot and still let's them continue to scam people into selling Tesla's as more safer than common adaptive cruise control.

Re: Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Problems Persist

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Post by asdsa5325 »

loceng wrote: post #8
beltex wrote: post #4

"Can’t believe you’re even writing about this. My job as CEO is to focus on what’s most critical, which is currently Model 3 production. Doug, who I regard as one of the world’s most talented engineering execs, is focused on vehicle engineering." "About a year ago, I asked Doug to manage both engineering & production. He agreed that Tesla needed eng & prod better aligned, so we don’t design cars that are crazy hard t…

I can only imagine how much experience and knowledge Elon is gaining by micromanaging (a good thing) this much, compared to say how much the top executive at other vehicle manufacturers have evolved to become. Edit: Downvotes on this comment? Really? What, do you think you're able to imagine the amount of experience he's getting? Do you think the top execs at other manufacturers have the same experience and hands-on…

I think the reason why you are getting downvotes is "micromanaging (a good thing)"

Re: Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Problems Persist

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Post by duhast »

keyle wrote: post #11

I have no interest or involvment in Tesla. But from an outsider's perspective I can't help but notice that when you're this little company with no chance of making it, the press is very bulish about your company. As soon as you become large, they look up at you and can't wait to see you fall, overly negative. Who thought making cars was difficult? And mass production? And electrical cars, pushing the boundaries or ba…

Tesla revenue in 2017 exceeded 12bln$. How is Tesla “little”?

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Post by iooi »

beltex wrote: post #4

"Can’t believe you’re even writing about this. My job as CEO is to focus on what’s most critical, which is currently Model 3 production. Doug, who I regard as one of the world’s most talented engineering execs, is focused on vehicle engineering." "About a year ago, I asked Doug to manage both engineering & production. He agreed that Tesla needed eng & prod better aligned, so we don’t design cars that are crazy hard t…

Why would he even engage this, he just turned it into an actual story.

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Post by amerine »

duhast wrote: post #14
keyle wrote: post #11

I have no interest or involvment in Tesla. But from an outsider's perspective I can't help but notice that when you're this little company with no chance of making it, the press is very bulish about your company. As soon as you become large, they look up at you and can't wait to see you fall, overly negative. Who thought making cars was difficult? And mass production? And electrical cars, pushing the boundaries or ba…

Tesla revenue in 2017 exceeded 12bln$. How is Tesla “little”?

You missed the OPs point entirely. He literally said that now Tesla is big they are rooting for its failure.

Re: Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Problems Persist

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Post by [deleted] »

duhast wrote: post #14
keyle wrote: post #11

I have no interest or involvment in Tesla. But from an outsider's perspective I can't help but notice that when you're this little company with no chance of making it, the press is very bulish about your company. As soon as you become large, they look up at you and can't wait to see you fall, overly negative. Who thought making cars was difficult? And mass production? And electrical cars, pushing the boundaries or ba…

Tesla revenue in 2017 exceeded 12bln$. How is Tesla “little”?

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Re: Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Problems Persist

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Post by pasbesoin »

loceng wrote: post #8
beltex wrote: post #4

"Can’t believe you’re even writing about this. My job as CEO is to focus on what’s most critical, which is currently Model 3 production. Doug, who I regard as one of the world’s most talented engineering execs, is focused on vehicle engineering." "About a year ago, I asked Doug to manage both engineering & production. He agreed that Tesla needed eng & prod better aligned, so we don’t design cars that are crazy hard t…

I can only imagine how much experience and knowledge Elon is gaining by micromanaging (a good thing) this much, compared to say how much the top executive at other vehicle manufacturers have evolved to become. Edit: Downvotes on this comment? Really? What, do you think you're able to imagine the amount of experience he's getting? Do you think the top execs at other manufacturers have the same experience and hands-on…

I don't mean to overly shill for "In Search of Excellence". (And yeah, I remember when it came out.)

But I just happened to catch the bulk of an hour long interview with its author, Tom Peters, today.

https://the1a.org/shows/2018-04-02/excellence-explained

And the parent comment reminds me of what he had to say about MBWA -- Management By Wandering Around.

It doesn't exactly fit what it appears Musk is currently doing. But as for the experience gained and benefit of being down on the floor, on the front line. Well, Peters' enthusiasm and description of same, seemed on point, to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_by_wandering_around

If there are problems, at least Musk is not sitting in his office, learning of them and trying to deal with them through layers of reports (both people and paper/electrons/photons).

P.S. As a possible counter-balance to this, I'll mention the complaints that have been reported about worker welfare on those same production lines. To the extent those are true, they would be in opposition to the practices Peters espouses.

Re: Tesla’s Musk Takes Charge of Model 3 Production as Problems Persist

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Post by CharlesW »

keyle wrote: post #11

I have no interest or involvment in Tesla. But from an outsider's perspective I can't help but notice that when you're this little company with no chance of making it, the press is very bulish about your company. As soon as you become large, they look up at you and can't wait to see you fall, overly negative. Who thought making cars was difficult? And mass production? And electrical cars, pushing the boundaries or ba…

> But from an outsider's perspective I can't help but notice that when you're this little company with no chance of making it, the press is very bulish about your company. As soon as you become large, they look up at you and can't wait to see you fall, overly negative.

This isn't just a press bias, but a seemingly-universal human bias.

[1] https://undark.org/article/why-we-root-for-the-underdog/

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