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DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

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Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has a separate, stricter, privacy policy for Google Public DNS: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy Basically there are two log files kept: - One for up to 48 hours which contains IP addresses, which is used for handling abuse. - One is permanent which doesn't contain any personal identifying information (eg IP addresses), which is used for things like internal performance monitoring, load t…

Do you know if Chrome uses Google Public DNS by default? I've heard it does for performance and avoiding problems with ISPs' crappy DNS. I imagine it would still need to fall back to local DNS to resolve names on enterprise intranets.

This is outside my area of expertise.

My uninformed assumption is that chrome generally uses whatever is configured in the system resolver, otherwise things like captive portals, and split horizon DNS wouldn't work properly, but I don't specifically know.

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#232
post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The YouTube cache is probably there not to increase performance for you, but to reduce ISP cost (ISP pays for all data received from outside of their network)

That's a strange way of looking at it. ISPs take all sorts of actions to both increase performance to customers, and to reduce their costs. A competent ISP operating in good faith will execute and expand peering agreements when it makes economic sense to do so.

> A competent ISP operating in good faith

That's probably the funniest thing I've read all year

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#233
post #56

Which ISPs are so bad that you want to use external services, which are further in distance than your ISP, for speed? When I test with my ISP, they beat all of these services (both IPv4 and IPv6). They're simply closer to me in terms of hops. My router is another story though. The Fritzbox (>200eur router) adds 6ms of latency, and that's what is advertised over DHCP. (Might still be fine, since cached queries are fas…

Queries to my local Spectrum DNS service are 4 times slower than 1.1.1.1, and they redirect you to stupid search pages instead of `NXDOMAIN`. I switched the whole network over this morning.

Assuming Spectrum is your ISP, wow. Just wow, that's impressive. On Spectrum's part I mean.

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#234

I think we'll start seeing the standard configuration of 1.1.1.1,8.8.8.8 everywhere. Google/Cloudflare tackled the UX of free DNS spectacularly with these gold IP addresses. It's the primary reason I use them instead of OpenDNS, which was an earlier player in this space.

Be careful with that, Google DNS (as an example) will start ignoring your DNS requests if you go over the rate-limit. Not an issue for home users, but an issue for any sizeable business.

Do we know yet if CloudFlare has similar rate limits?

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#235

Pushed a shell script to compare all of them from your location: https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest $ sh ./dnstest.sh |sort -k 22 -n test1 test2 test3 test4 test5 test6 test7 test8 test9 test10 Average cloudflare 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 4 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1.30 norton 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2.00 neustar 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 22 ms 3.90 cleanbrowsing 11…

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Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#236

Pushed a shell script to compare all of them from your location: https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest $ sh ./dnstest.sh |sort -k 22 -n test1 test2 test3 test4 test5 test6 test7 test8 test9 test10 Average cloudflare 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 4 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1.30 norton 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2.00 neustar 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 22 ms 3.90 cleanbrowsing 11…

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Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#237

Pushed a shell script to compare all of them from your location: https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest $ sh ./dnstest.sh |sort -k 22 -n test1 test2 test3 test4 test5 test6 test7 test8 test9 test10 Average cloudflare 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 4 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1.30 norton 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2.00 neustar 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 22 ms 3.90 cleanbrowsing 11…

From Oakland on Comcast:

  $ sh ./dnstest.sh | sort -k 22 -n
                 test1   test2   test3   test4   test5   test6   test7   test8   test9   test10  Average
  cloudflare     27 ms   40 ms   45 ms   41 ms   42 ms   41 ms   41 ms   47 ms   41 ms   41 ms     40.60
  norton         41 ms   42 ms   47 ms   48 ms   45 ms   42 ms   46 ms   42 ms   44 ms   13 ms     41.00
  google         42 ms   41 ms   40 ms   42 ms   41 ms   69 ms   42 ms   13 ms   45 ms   41 ms     41.60
  cleanbrowsing  43 ms   44 ms   41 ms   41 ms   41 ms   41 ms   40 ms   45 ms   41 ms   41 ms     41.80
  neustar        44 ms   41 ms   42 ms   42 ms   42 ms   41 ms   40 ms   43 ms   42 ms   44 ms     42.10
  comodo         41 ms   41 ms   46 ms   41 ms   42 ms   45 ms   42 ms   42 ms   43 ms   42 ms     42.50
  quad9          41 ms   40 ms   41 ms   42 ms   41 ms   44 ms   45 ms   45 ms   44 ms   46 ms     42.90
  opendns        45 ms   46 ms   45 ms   44 ms   43 ms   235 ms  46 ms   49 ms   48 ms   47 ms     64.80
  adguard        81 ms   81 ms   80 ms   80 ms   81 ms   81 ms   80 ms   85 ms   89 ms   81 ms     81.90
  yandex         198 ms  292 ms  294 ms  292 ms  293 ms  292 ms  186 ms  399 ms  291 ms  293 ms    283.00

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#238

Pushed a shell script to compare all of them from your location: https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest $ sh ./dnstest.sh |sort -k 22 -n test1 test2 test3 test4 test5 test6 test7 test8 test9 test10 Average cloudflare 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 4 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1.30 norton 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2.00 neustar 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 22 ms 3.90 cleanbrowsing 11…

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Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#239
post #9

https://pulse.turbobytes.com/results/5ac1f967ecbe4078c200ee4... Cloudflare consistently times out from these networks. Netherlands - AS13127 Philippines - AS135132 Thailand - AS17552 (One of the largest consumer internet providers) US - AS7018 (AT&T)

I just got bite by this. If your ISP is AT&T (I have AT&T fiber) don't use 1.1.1.1, only use the CloudFlare secondary 1.0.0.1.

1.1.1.1 does not resolve.

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#240

Pushed a shell script to compare all of them from your location: https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest $ sh ./dnstest.sh |sort -k 22 -n test1 test2 test3 test4 test5 test6 test7 test8 test9 test10 Average cloudflare 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 4 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1.30 norton 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2.00 neustar 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 22 ms 3.90 cleanbrowsing 11…

Comcast in Mountain View, CA.

                   test1   test2   test3   test4   test5   test6   test7   test8   test9   test10  Average
    quad9          39 ms   39 ms   38 ms   39 ms   39 ms   39 ms   39 ms   40 ms   41 ms   38 ms     39.10
    cloudflare     41 ms   41 ms   39 ms   40 ms   39 ms   41 ms   39 ms   39 ms   39 ms   39 ms     39.70
    norton         41 ms   40 ms   40 ms   41 ms   41 ms   39 ms   44 ms   39 ms   40 ms   40 ms     40.50
    comodo         39 ms   40 ms   39 ms   39 ms   54 ms   38 ms   40 ms   40 ms   42 ms   40 ms     41.10
    neustar        49 ms   44 ms   42 ms   42 ms   43 ms   40 ms   40 ms   38 ms   38 ms   38 ms     41.40
    opendns        41 ms   39 ms   39 ms   49 ms   39 ms   85 ms   39 ms   39 ms   12 ms   41 ms     42.30
    google         39 ms   39 ms   41 ms   39 ms   39 ms   70 ms   13 ms   65 ms   40 ms   39 ms     42.40
    cleanbrowsing  59 ms   46 ms   44 ms   46 ms   40 ms   79 ms   40 ms   47 ms   48 ms   51 ms     50.00
    adguard        80 ms   80 ms   80 ms   81 ms   84 ms   80 ms   79 ms   81 ms   80 ms   80 ms     80.50
    yandex         183 ms  229 ms  185 ms  186 ms  234 ms  186 ms  187 ms  189 ms  185 ms  189 ms    195.30
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