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Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:27 PM UTC

mcphage wrote: post #215

meri_dian wrote: post #84

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How is that any different from major news organizations like CNN with a national reach clearly pushing biased anti-Trump news constantly? It's funny: Trump attacks CNN for being fake, biased news, then CNN responds by focusing all of their negative reporting on Trump, becoming exactly what Trump says they are. People would have had much more respect for CNN if they had stuck to the middle path in the face of Trump's…

> It's funny: Trump attacks CNN for being fake, biased news, then CNN responds by focusing all of their negative reporting on Trump, becoming exactly what Trump says they are. CNN reporting negatively on Trump doesn't make them "fake". He's a bad president and a bad leader; reporting on that means you're telling the truth. Fake mean lying, not reporting truth you don't want to hear.

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Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by chc » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:30 PM UTC

Consultant32452 wrote: post #287

eumenides1 wrote: post #168

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It's one (sinclair) pretending to be many (local news stations). Standard advice is check multiple sources. This pretends to be "multiple sources" when really it's just one. Sinclair is effectively and echo chamber on TV. Web standards, don't like it, navigate else where. TV Standards, change the channel, get the same stuff. See how that is much more dangerous?

But this is the way it's been as far back as I can remember. You might think reading your local news is an independent source, but it's often mostly a copy/pasta from Reuters or simply reporting that another news company said something. I never believed that my local "Action 9 News" caster was actually doing any journalism. Maybe for local stories, but for anything national they were just regurgitating the company li…

Newspapers pay Reuters for access to their stories because Reuters has pretty good writing on offer for less than it would cost the paper to do the work itself. They can choose what stories they want to put their name on, and they are even free to modify a story from Reuters if they want to. Reuters doesn't tell the newspapers want to print. It's not even a little bit similar to what people are talking about here.

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by reefoctopus » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:32 PM UTC

rlindgren wrote: post #279

rfw wrote: post #249

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Can you refute the claims in the video posted? The style is unrelated to the validity of the claims.

Validity of claims is one thing. Validity doesn't equal truth or objectivity. "Fake news" includes cases where the presented claims may be technically valid, but the "lie" exists in the omission of inconvenient claims which would invalidate the intended message of the story. The use of certain agreeable facts to drive a greater agenda rather than inform the viewer. Style is related, as it is the method through which…

What is being omitted in this case that invalidates the story?

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by disgruntledphd2 » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

yourapostasy wrote: post #219

thrillgore wrote: post #129

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What are my best and quickest options to legally expatriate out of the US?

In case your question was not a rhetorical device, or a troll, there are almost a dozen nations that enable US expatriates to stay indefinitely on non-work visas. Hang out in digital nomad forums and you will discover that with a few exceptions, most fund their lifestyle through remote work and do not declare to their host country their intention to remote work while on a non-work visa. Most nations aren't set up to…

My name is disgruntledphd(2) (i lost my original account before there was password reset), and I approve of this message :)

The big problem in much of the modern world is that capital is free to move, but labour is not. This leads to a corporate beauty pageant, run by governments against one another to collect mobile tax revenues. This causes problems in richer nations (such as Britain and the US), which leads to lots of unusual political decisions (rather like the eponymous president at the top of this thread), while the corporations make out like bandits.

I personally believe that as the poster above, we should ensure that both labour and capital are equally mobile, as this will lead to better long-term outcomes. I make no representations as to the goodness of the short-term outcomes, however.

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by dahdum » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

digitaltrees wrote: post #183

dahdum wrote: post #161

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I consider them open now, in practice not law. Despite also supporting amnesty, chain migration, and increased visa quotas I’ve been told I’m racist for wanting a secure border. Racist for not supporting border policies that create an underclass of undocumented, helpless workers.

Open boarders worked well in the early united states. I don't want to go back to closed boarders between New York and New Jersey.

Uncapped unskilled immigration works great when you have jobs available, and early America had plenty of those. Coupled with zero entitlement programs it was a perfect recipe for growth.

Doesn't work so well now, it would put enormous pressure on social programs already near their breaking point, and drive unemployment sky high as unskilled jobs are diminishing. Crime would increase as poverty is positive correlated.

However, if you make it past that initial surge, the 2nd generation could provide an enormous boost to the economy as long as education was prioritized.

Compare to uncapped skilled immigration and it's a much higher risk.

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by disgruntledphd2 » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:37 PM UTC

Bud wrote: post #132

Consultant32452 wrote: post #27

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Not the person you're replying to, but I also have a hard time seeing the problem. Or rather, I can see the problem, but this is how I would've expected news to have been done for decades. I grew up when there was only 4 TV channels and no internet. I would have assumed CBS (or its parent) would have controlled all the CBS affiliates in this way in the 80s. NBC would do the same, etc.

I guess you're completely ignorant of the Fairness Doctrine, then.

A link, in case anyone is lazy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by rhapsodic » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:41 PM UTC

uptown wrote: post #135

rhapsodic wrote: post #93

Those news anchors were either OK with the contents of the script they were ordered to read, or they were gutless cowards for not resigning or allowing themselves to be fired.

Here's some context around the provisions of the contracts these anchors frequently work under: https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/980800914423406592 https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/980811757726810112 Essentially, if they were to chose to leave, they'd owe 40% of their base pay prorated by the remainder of their contract, as-well as the potential requirement to return some bonuses received. Vacation days a…

>Essentially, if they were to chose to leave, they'd owe 40% of their base pay prorated by the remainder of their contract, as-well as the potential requirement to return some bonuses received. Vacation days are lost, and there are typically non-competes within the same region.

That's entirely beside the point. They freely entered into those contracts. Now that push has come to shove, they chose money and personal well-being over their integrity and beliefs. (Or maybe they were OK with the message they were ordered to read, in which case their integrity is intact.)

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Post by Consultant32452 » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:45 PM UTC

chc wrote: post #292

Consultant32452 wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But this is the way it's been as far back as I can remember. You might think reading your local news is an independent source, but it's often mostly a copy/pasta from Reuters or simply reporting that another news company said something. I never believed that my local "Action 9 News" caster was actually doing any journalism. Maybe for local stories, but for anything national they were just regurgitating the company li…

Newspapers pay Reuters for access to their stories because Reuters has pretty good writing on offer for less than it would cost the paper to do the work itself. They can choose what stories they want to put their name on, and they are even free to modify a story from Reuters if they want to. Reuters doesn't tell the newspapers want to print. It's not even a little bit similar to what people are talking about here.

Then I think the discussion should reflect that. So what has changed is that now there's apparently an explicit rule that news stations must continue to follow the behavior they've been exhibiting for decades. Also, there's a little more structure to it now.

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by cmurf » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:46 PM UTC

So funny to watch Fake News Networks, among the most dishonest groups of people I have ever dealt with, criticize Sinclair Broadcasting for being biased. Sinclair is far superior to CNN and even more Fake NBC, which is a total joke. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/98079918342580224...

I think it's reasonable to conclude that POTUS likes that Sinclair compels local news anchors to recite scripts that present a favorable impression of, support for, his policies or him personally.

This is the American crony capitalism version of what Putin did with his state media in order to gain and retain control of the country, and destroy his adversaries. Trump won't have to have his adversaries poisoned. He's poisoning the ability for people to triangulate. And near as I can tell this is what people who support him want. They do not want contrary opinions. They want an autocrat.

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Post by dahdum » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:49 PM UTC

bradleyankrom wrote: post #270

nkassis wrote: post #252

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McConnell and Ryan refuse to consider bills unless 50% of their party supports it. This essentially prevents any bipartisan deal on issues such as immigration.

Polls have indicated that the DREAM Act is supported by an overwhelming majority[0]. If representatives don't mirror that support, then the problem is with them, not the bill. [0] http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/sep/19/...

Trump's issue was with what was left out.

'68 percent of Americans said they oppose "the lottery that randomly picks 50,000 people to enter the U.S. each year for greater diversity.' https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/580037717/what-the-latest-imm...

Family based (chain migration) is more evenly split according to article.