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Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by zaroth »

bradleyankrom wrote: post #154
dahdum wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Democrats should be willing to compromise because they value the DACA fix more than their opposition to border funding. They are instead doing the same thing Republicans did to Obama, refusing to compromise in order to whip up their base. Any politician that compromises an inch these days will be portrayed as an immoral enemy and attacked by some vocal part of their own base.

Ds were gonna give him ALL of the border wall money that he wanted - like $25B - and he still backed out.

The funding in that bill was over 10 years, with very little up front. It was also missing key immigration reforms that Trump said he needed to see.

He is pretty clear about what he wants to see, and I’m pretty sure that he sees no deal as better than a bad deal. He’d rather keep the issue in play through mid-terms, or collect some additional policy points (gun control?) that he can throw in the mix to ultimately craft a bill that achieves his core policy objectives around national defense and immigration.

I think immigration policy will be the big issue for the midterms, it will be interesting to see it all play out.

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Post by mejari »

state_less wrote: post #180
mejari wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not true at all. If I say "x said y", and don't tell you that "y said z", then that is biased, while telling you only the truth.

That's called a lie by omission, so in such a case, if you wanted to tell the truth, you'd have to include "y said z" or you'd be lying.

Right, so how do you determine how much you have to say to tell the "truth"? If someone makes a claim about an economic policy, is it "lying by omission" to not talk about the impact previous similar policies have been enacted? Or is that inserting your bias? If you aren't telling people the facts behind the claims then are you telling the truth? Which facts you decide to share or not share can be biased.

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Post by dragonwriter »

robotrout wrote: post #158
digitaltrees wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't Democrats offer to fund the boarder wall in exchange for a DACA bill? What more compromise is there?

No, they did not. Trump's offer was made for the nation to hear, during the State of the Union. You should watch it again.

> Trump's offer was made for the nation to hear

Yes, politicians often make statements for people to hear that are not in alignment with their preceding or following actions; Trump is not especially virtuous compared to other politicians in this regard. In fact, he's been frequently noted for the wide gulf between many of his public statements and not only his subsequent actions, but even his other public statements that are close in time.

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by x220 »

ChicagoDave wrote: post #125

I do see this as a bad thing, but I also know that everyone under 40 gets their news from the web. The target audience for these channels are older people who don't read news online or on mobile phones. In a way, Sinclair is becoming a TV streaming service. I sense the badness, but I also think they run the risk of spending a lot of money on a wasted effort. You can only influence people if they're dumb _and_ watchin…

>You can only influence people if they're dumb _and_ watching your news programs. Seems like a dwindling market if you ask me.

The amount of people watching TV is going down, but the proportion of people who think uncritically is skyrocketing.

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Post by trose »

creaghpatr wrote: post #160
philipodonnell wrote: post #108

It seems like the issue is a lack of competition, if I don't like what Sinclair is saying I can not watch it, but if they own all the stations then I don't have that choice. The FCC did all this while everyone was distracted with net neutrality, so even if it came up again there the FCC knows how to distract people already. I'm just not sure what I as a viewer/voter can do about except wait for the next election, and…

>or if the merger with Tribune Media goes through? That's the whole reason this is a story. The viral clip was assembled by far-left think tank ThinkProgress to attempt to torpedo the merger by stirring up public outcry. And of course, the mainstream media, who indirectly compete against these local stations, is happy to support these efforts.

are we getting russian trolls in HN as well? I thought we were here to have intelligent discussions. Not political nonsense about "mainstream media"

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Post by Bud »

creaghpatr wrote: post #172
wanderer2323 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>CNN is not dictating what its personnel report this is incredibly naive. >it's certainly not coordinating forced fake "reporting" CNN itself may not be the coordination center, but leftist media does coordinate its reporting, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList

Not to mention rigging the presidential debates by providing the questions ahead of time to its chosen campaign.

Anyone who thinks that this "rigs" a debate in any meaningful way is watching too much Hannity.

Debate questions are not some big secret surprise; the candidates drill for MONTHS on all the likely sorts of questions that could be asked. And there weren't any "gotcha" questions asked in the debate in question; just straight-up stuff that any prepared candidate could answer in his/her sleep.

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Post by iambateman »

macintux wrote: post #142
ModernMech wrote: post #134

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The problem is your excuse is used to justify any action all the way down to killing Jews in a gas chamber. "I was just doing as I was told" Sure no one is being gassed here, bit this seems pretty subversive. I have a family to feed too, we all do, but I also chose my line of work so that I'm comfortable saying "No" to the boss (and have had to quit because of this in the past).

Slippery slope is not a compelling argument.

At least ModernMech made an argument, which you have chosen not to do.

Dismissiveness is not a compelling argument.

Journalists have a social duty to tell the truth, as they understand it. This duty in particular extends to keeping a check on government. Participating in the deployment of propaganda is not a slippery slope, it is a violation of trust. If our journalists are willing to participate, then we have a problem.

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Post by jessaustin »

creaghpatr wrote: post #130
Bud wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This actually isn't remotely comparable to what Sinclair is doing. Not remotely. I am tempted to say that you know it's not comparable and that you're simply outright lying, but I'll restrain myself, and instead just note that you're completely and outrageously incorrect. CNN is not dictating what its personnel report and it's certainly not coordinating forced fake "reporting" in unison by dozens of TV stations, or f…

>I am tempted to say that you know it's not comparable and that you're simply outright lying, but I'll restrain myself, and instead just note that you're completely and outrageously incorrect. Obvious cognitive dissonance tell right here.

If your own cognition weren't so dissonant, you would know that cognitive dissonance only afflicts those of particular political leanings.

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Post by ravenstine »

ModernMech wrote: post #170
ravenstine wrote: post #157

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If all news is biased, why bother watching any it?

Why do you think bias makes something not worth watching?

That's not necessarily what I am implying. I'm challenging the idea that, if all news is biased(beyond simply picking and choosing stories), one can reliably find the truth by essentially making a Venn diagram between biased sources and analyzing overlaps. I neither believe nor disbelieve that it's a pathway to truth. I have my skepticism because it provides no form of validation; if all sources are too highly skewed, any overlap becomes highly suspect and simultaneously difficult to test.
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