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I believe HIV status is a special protected piece of information and consent needs to be given before you can share it. http://www.aidslawpa.org/get-help/legal-information/confiden...

Those laws apply to healthcare providers, not to social networks.

Well, in the case of PA (as an example) i believe they have a `Subsequent disclosure prohibited` portion of their statute which covers anyone who has the data preventing them from further sharing it without consent.

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A bit unrelated, but imagine how much data has Tinder collected, if Cambridge Analytica could do that much with just a comparatively unpopular quiz app.

Yet Tinder is just one of the 150 online brands owned by IAC, a company created by legendary TV executive Barry Diller. He probably knows the value of the data they have.

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What is the privacy distinction between a third party with a contractual agreement and an employee with a contractual agreement? Remember that Russian intelligence got a spy hired by Microsoft: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/jul/14/russian-s... Will your interview questions find a foreign spy, or someone who isn't even a spy but is interested in looking at private data for personal amusement?

What? How about "lets just not spend medically sensitive information to third party services"

That seems reasonable, but can we also say, let's not send medically sensiive information to every employee at the first party?

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It's become clear over the last year there is a strong need for a data privacy regulatory agency in US government. I understand that regulation hampers growth, but the tech industry is mature and developed to the point that it's time to reel in "moving fast and breaking things" a bit.

> regulation hampers growth Is there proof of this? Some countries like Germany and Sweden are both highly regulated and have fastest economic growth in the West.

Who's growing is the more important question. Regulation benefits the already big.

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So you're going to pay to use it right? If this imaginary product managed to get 1% of Facebook to hand over their credit card. That would be the most wildly successful pay to use application in existence. Will never happen. Social Media sites rely on mass adoption, among those who refuse to pay for just about anything.

Just as some people pay for fastmail I am pretty sure there'd be some people paying an entrance fee to a social network. Wasn't the social network of last week, vero, supposed to be like that ?

Email is a poor comparison, because you're connecting to millions of other people using gmail/yahoo/whatever, for free. The correct comparison would be if eMail was a universally paid for service. It would NOT be what it is today.

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Even within its confines, Grindr's data are rich for blackmail. (Consider: images and messages sent and received within 100 feet of Capitol Hill.) It was recently acquired by an offshore billionaire [1]. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-12/china-tec...

Makes me think that data should be treated differently in the case of a potential new owner, allowing users to opt-out from their data from being transferred; you may trust the leadership and governance, and may not trust whomever takes over or who will newly has access to the data.

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We need a new business model for social media, one which actually serves the customer instead of trying to lure them into productizing themselves.

So you're going to pay to use it right? If this imaginary product managed to get 1% of Facebook to hand over their credit card. That would be the most wildly successful pay to use application in existence. Will never happen. Social Media sites rely on mass adoption, among those who refuse to pay for just about anything.

> So you're going to pay to use it right?

Yep -- I'm willing to pay $5/mo to host stuff. That's roughly 10% of an average cell phone bill, or less than 1% of rent (even outside the cool places).

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We need a new business model for social media, one which actually serves the customer instead of trying to lure them into productizing themselves.

So you're going to pay to use it right? If this imaginary product managed to get 1% of Facebook to hand over their credit card. That would be the most wildly successful pay to use application in existence. Will never happen. Social Media sites rely on mass adoption, among those who refuse to pay for just about anything.

If "no pay" is an option most people will take it, if it isn't an option because the mechanisms that make it possible are banned then people will pay - or there will be no service.

This isn't physics; the laws of user behaviour are mutable, and legislation is completely possible.

The outcome of the erosion of privacy is the end of our ability to adapt as a society; there will be no new ways of doing things or dealing with change. This will be bad, we have some very very nasty societal problems coming and we need lots of new ways of dealing.

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