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Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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Are you trying to segue into a discussion on over prescription of ADHD medication? I don't really see what the one has to do with the other but sure, they are both problems. But you can't just say two things are drugs so they are equal. I take a drug first thing every morning for my allergies for instance. Edit: You edited your reply after I started. I think abstinence works fine for something like nicotine. Unlike s…

It's because you've never consumed it that you don't miss it.

I think you are being unclear here. I took your remark on abstinence to be a reference to abstinence only sex education, as I think most readers did. If you are asking how we can help teens with a nicotine addiction to break it then there are a variety of ways that have been shown to work in helping someone break addiction, so schools, parents, and healthcare providers can support those.

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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A lot of those kids are probably self medicating with nicotine for stress / anxiety / ADHD. I've never been a user myself but it seems like for many people who get nervous and have trouble focusing, a little nicotine helps steady them out. Edit: To be clear, I'm not recommending that anyone, especially children, self medicate with psychoactive substances.

Nicotine is a stimulant, not a depressant.

Do you take Meth to 'even out'?

Me, I just quit smoking entirely 3 years ago.

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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A lot of those kids are probably self medicating with nicotine for stress / anxiety / ADHD. I've never been a user myself but it seems like for many people who get nervous and have trouble focusing, a little nicotine helps steady them out. Edit: To be clear, I'm not recommending that anyone, especially children, self medicate with psychoactive substances.

The problem isn't a little nicotine. The utter nastiness in cigarettes limits how much you can have. Vapes don't.

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A lot of those kids are probably self medicating with nicotine for stress / anxiety / ADHD. I've never been a user myself but it seems like for many people who get nervous and have trouble focusing, a little nicotine helps steady them out. Edit: To be clear, I'm not recommending that anyone, especially children, self medicate with psychoactive substances.

Nicotine is a stimulant, not a depressant. Do you take Meth to 'even out'? Me, I just quit smoking entirely 3 years ago.

The biggest lie of cigarette smoking: that it relaxes you. When you're a nicotine addict and crave it you get anxious, nicotine fixes that.

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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Mid 30s adult here who used an e-cigarette for a year or two when alone in the car for funsies (flavors smell nice). What, exactly, is the problem with kids vaping/using e-cigarettes if they don't contain a controlled substance (THC or nicotine, in these cases). We don't ban kids from consuming caffeine, so what's the problem with inert vapors? I agree that the liquid to be vaporized needs to be regulated to prevent…

The problems that I see with that are. 1. Vaping still isn't that healthy for you even if everything is ideal. Heating something up and inhaling it is never going to be that healthy. Add in possible contamination in the liquid, issues with not cleaning the vape etc. and you are always going to have some health problems. 2. It makes it easier to then switch to nicotine once they have the vape pen since the psychologic…

> Heating something up and inhaling it is never going to be that healthy.

Just to add to this. Your gastrointestinal tract has evolved for millions of years to deal with all sorts of crap you can throw at it. It's always the safest route. Snorting or inhaling compounds is a quick way to the bloodstream, but an unsafe route since the sinuses and lungs aren't as good at protection and general healing as the stomach and gut.

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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post #53
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A lot of those kids are probably self medicating with nicotine for stress / anxiety / ADHD. I've never been a user myself but it seems like for many people who get nervous and have trouble focusing, a little nicotine helps steady them out. Edit: To be clear, I'm not recommending that anyone, especially children, self medicate with psychoactive substances.

Nicotine is a stimulant, not a depressant. Do you take Meth to 'even out'? Me, I just quit smoking entirely 3 years ago.

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Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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Yes but what's the success rate?

The success rate of never smoking/vaping in the first place is 100%. The success rate of quitting is really up to the individual, much like weight loss or other self improvement stuff. But even if it's hard it's the thing you should do. I'm really not sure what you're arguing. "Quitting is hard and a lot of people fail so .. don't quit." That's some lame mentality right there.

>"Quitting is hard and a lot of people fail so .. don't quit."

No, I asked: what should vaping be replaced with?

Re: Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

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post #53
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A lot of those kids are probably self medicating with nicotine for stress / anxiety / ADHD. I've never been a user myself but it seems like for many people who get nervous and have trouble focusing, a little nicotine helps steady them out. Edit: To be clear, I'm not recommending that anyone, especially children, self medicate with psychoactive substances.

Nicotine is a stimulant, not a depressant. Do you take Meth to 'even out'? Me, I just quit smoking entirely 3 years ago.

It's not that simple. Nicotine is both a stimulant and a relaxant.

http://www.ti.ubc.ca/1997/10/31/effective-clinical-tobacco-i...

I don't personally take meth or anything like that, but low dose amphetamines are widely used to treat ADHD and related disorders.

It's good that you quit. I'm certainly not recommending nicotine to anyone. Just pointing out one factor behind the growing trend.

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