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Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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> since to a first approximation, zero consumers take advantage of data privacy laws. That's where that nice multiplier of 250,000 gets going. See, even if to a first approximation zero consumers take advantage of these laws if it turns out that 'approximately zero' out of 100 million is say 10,000 you're still fucked if you decide to play dumb. So round off all you want, but keep in mind the multiplier.

No, because of that multiplier all companies are coming into compliance and it's costing all of them a lot of money. But it isn't going to affect their revenue or advertising business models at all because nobody uses the tool. I've done GDPR work at one of the biggest tech companies in the world. They had an existing (pre-GDPR) privacy tool that literally less than 100 people had ever used. This is a company with hu…

So, you're saying 'it works and that's why we shouldn't use it'?

One company isn't a particularly solid sample.

For some contrast: I've looked at 9 companies since the beginning of the year and all of them took the GDPR serious enough that it made them re-evaluate their privacy, security and data life cycles. The interesting bit is that they would have never done any of that if not for the GDPR, and that no matter what level of use the data privacy tools will see it doesn't matter because before they didn't have those tools and now they do.

Besides that the GDPR has much wider scope than just allowing people access to their own data. Also, you should expect that as people become more aware of these things - and consumers will be more aware - that such tools will see more use.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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> since to a first approximation, zero consumers take advantage of data privacy laws. That's where that nice multiplier of 250,000 gets going. See, even if to a first approximation zero consumers take advantage of these laws if it turns out that 'approximately zero' out of 100 million is say 10,000 you're still fucked if you decide to play dumb. So round off all you want, but keep in mind the multiplier.

multiplier? anyway, a company like google or apple could hardly care less about a number like 250,000 but a small European startup is hopelessly screwed.

Yes, for those companies we have the 20% of worldwide gross revenues.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #398

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What you're describing is a monitor. A big, good looking monitor. That's all I want too. The interface on my (non smart) TV is unbearably slow and I don't want to use it. Unbelievably, the interface on the last "smart" TV I tried, which costs 5x as much, is even slower. I cannot stand using tools that can't keep up with how fast I think.

True, except I've always felt a monitor doesn't contain built-in speakers.

Me too. I really don't want built in speakers. They would be a waste of space.

The closest thing I've found to what I want is a projector. But those are inconvenient for other reasons and I can't stand the visual corruption that occurs on a single-cell (affordable) projector.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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> They get the same message If by "they" you mean the manufacturers, no they don't get the "same message". The message they (makers) got was: "A smart TV sold". They interpret that to mean "purchaser wanted a smart TV".

And if you never connect you're device the message they get is "the consumer wanted our TV, but not our software." What's hard to understand about that?

Nothing hard to understand about your logic. It is the underlying assumption that is flawed.

The makers are not tracking that statistic (number of units sold that were not connected to the internet). They don't care if you connect it to the internet or not. Anything that happens after the initial sale (beyond returns and warranty repairs) is simply irrelevant to them, because there is zero income stream (unless they are charging an 'upgrade fee' later for something).

They care only about that initial sale. The only feedback channel they listen to is "units sold".

But too many people are addicted to the upgrade cycle and as a result not enough will simply turn away and say "no thanks, I'll stick with my dumb TV" (or go hunt down those few dumb TV's that still exist, so the sales numbers shift to dumb TV's).

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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> Books don't include any tracking bullshit. Most books aren't specially interesting. The history of the books that you borrow in the public library is registered with your library customer card, address and name. Some local libraries or universities will ask you to write your name in a card when you take the book and let the card in the shelf. Therefore anybody could read the names of the former five or ten people t…

I am not your librarian, but the American Library Association (ALA) seems to respect readers' privacy. They pushed back on the Patriot Act: http://www.ala.org/advocacy/advleg/federallegislation/theusa... And have guidelines for librarians when law enforcement comes knocking: http://www.ala.org/advocacy/privacy/lawenforcement Again, it will vary depending on your town and library.

Interesting stuff, thanks.

> or in response to some form of judicial process (subpoena, search warrant, or other court order).

So basically, this info is available and can be used against you in a trial. Is a fake sense of privacy.

The main difference between public libraries and internet is that the former have much less controversial adult or political stuff but a lot of stablished literature touch taboo and very sensitive matter. Has this people read 'Lolita', 'the Catcher in the Rye' or took a look to 'The Capital' in the past?, has borrow a Quran recently? For how many days? How many times? Any attorney could easily use pseudoscience and cheap psychology to draw a line and build a relate leading to any conclusion of their interest with this info.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #395

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An RPi can handle 720p at best, and no Netflix/Prime. Certainly not at 4k with HDR.

Um... running 1080p on Pi for years over here.

On which RPi? With hardware rendering? Which codec? Cause whenever I try it, I get stutters. I first suspected it'd be the wireless of the Chromecast, but that wasn't it.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #426

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Um... running 1080p on Pi for years over here.

On which RPi? With hardware rendering? Which codec? Cause whenever I try it, I get stutters. I first suspected it'd be the wireless of the Chromecast, but that wasn't it.

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Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #424

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And if you never connect you're device the message they get is "the consumer wanted our TV, but not our software." What's hard to understand about that?

Nothing hard to understand about your logic. It is the underlying assumption that is flawed. The makers are not tracking that statistic (number of units sold that were not connected to the internet). They don't care if you connect it to the internet or not. Anything that happens after the initial sale (beyond returns and warranty repairs) is simply irrelevant to them, because there is zero income stream (unless they…

> The makers are not tracking that statistic (number of units sold that were not connected to the internet). They don't care if you connect it to the internet or not.

That is absolutely wrong. They are making money off of the data; of course they care! That's the whole point!

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #426

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Um... running 1080p on Pi for years over here.

On which RPi? With hardware rendering? Which codec? Cause whenever I try it, I get stutters. I first suspected it'd be the wireless of the Chromecast, but that wasn't it.

OpenElec/Kodi, RPi2, never once a stutter

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #426

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On which RPi? With hardware rendering? Which codec? Cause whenever I try it, I get stutters. I first suspected it'd be the wireless of the Chromecast, but that wasn't it.

OpenElec/Kodi, RPi2, never once a stutter

I don't use Kodi, I find it terrible. I use Emby. More important though, is the ffmpeg version and compile options.
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