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Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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We bought a Tuft and Needle mattress three years ago, and it's been fantastic. A few other friends have bought mattresses online and all been very happy. If it's all a marketing ploy, as the article implies, then there's a lot of happy people benefiting. ;)

If it's a marketing ploy, then traditional brick and mortar mattress companies were also marketing ploys (which they may have been!!). In either case I agree, consumers are pretty happy now.

I have always viewed traditional mattress companies as very sketchy. I can't find a more authoritative source than Vox that corroborates my view, but here it is: https://www.vox.com/2015/3/5/8151607/mattress-buying-tips-sa...

Notably, mattress stores participate in the classic tactic of price inflation, as well as taking the same model of mattress and giving it a different name, making it much more difficult to comparison shop:

>For example, the popular Simmons Beautyrest line has different brand names at different stores. The "Beautyrest Recharge Allie" at Macy's is called the "Beautyrest Recharge Devonwood Luxury" at Sears, the "Recharge Signature Select Hartfield" at Mattress Firm, and the "Beautyrest Recharge Lyric Luxury" at US-Mattress.com. If customers don't realize these are names for the same mattress, it's harder for them to bargain effectively.

Then again, maybe these online mattress companies are doing the same thing too, just one step removed. At least there's no pushy sales staff when I order a bed in a box.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you like your Leesa?

Not a Leesa but I have 3 Brooklyn Bedding mattresses. I don't have a critique from any sort of experience aside from that I sleep well and its comfortable. I have the soft king size for the bedroom, and 2x full size mediums for the guest beds. My wife stole the free giant shredded foam pillow. I probably couldn't take it from her if I tried.

I will ride and/or die with Xtreme Comforts' shredded foam pillows. They're like fifty bucks, a little more for a bigger one. My girlfriend hates them--which is fine, because it means I get two. The bed's going to look funny when we move in together: two enormous pillows on my side, two puny flat ones on hers.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V909F1K

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Somewhat ironic that the article comments about MemoryFoamTalk not disclosing comissions from Nectar and then provides an (undisclosed) affiliate link. I have a Leesa as it was the only mattress (at the time) which fit my bed properly. The fact that all these companies can offer 100-365 day trials does hint at how stupidly large the margins are.

We had a Leesa but returned it because it was too soft. Got a Helix mattress instead (lots of options for firmness etc.), which has been pretty good for about 2 years. The "return" for the Leesa was a disposal truck from 1-800-Got-Junk. It already had another Leesa mattress on it from that morning. Used mattresses can't really be resold; I hope they're at least somewhat recyclable.

Tuft and Needle’s returned mattresses are directly donated to local homeless and women's shelters.

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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Seems like part of what this article is discussing is the emerging 'Shopify effect'. The barriers to entry for starting an online brand-based business have plummetted to the point where even people with little means financially and no means technically can still set up a business for a fraction of what it cost in the 20th century. I wouldn't be surprised if we're in the middle of a Cambrian explosion-esque period for…

And not just US based brands trying to all sell the same products. I have a "joyroom design" phone charging case, shamo's phone case, yivvin wireless keyboard, powerextra camera flash, godox battery charger, auxia ring light, and all other manner of cheap Chinese whitelabel brands that didn't even take the time to consult an English speaker before coming up with a name.

And all of these products have at least 20 to 30 or more other listings of the exact same product with some other made up "brand name" on it.

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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And why are there so many mattress commercials on radio?

It's a rare purchase with high profit margins and limited differentiation between brands. In other words, whatever store/vendor you go to first has a great shot at getting your business, and you'll totally forget about them by the time you next need a mattress years later.

Same reason you hear so many car dealership and insurance ads.

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We bought a Tuft and Needle mattress three years ago, and it's been fantastic. A few other friends have bought mattresses online and all been very happy. If it's all a marketing ploy, as the article implies, then there's a lot of happy people benefiting. ;)

Of course it's a marketing ploy! Mattresses are a great example of an area where the marketing ploys are really an inescapable part of the perception of value. If you think you're buying a great, innovative mattress design, you'll probably continue to believe that unless it's quite bad. They've just switched us from feeling like we can pick the right mattress through trying a dozen in a store to reading online review…

We were certain we had split opinions on a softer and a firmer mattress in the store. We bought one for the master and one for the guest room just in case we changed our minds.

I think we switched them at least once, but honestly can't remember how many times, and can no longer tell which one I "really" like.

Through this process I learned... I don't actually have mattress preferences, short of it not being a bunch of rocks.

I'm sure some people actually have preferences, but I wonder if this is an area, like vodka, where you can make people feel strongly like they have preferences between two things that are barely distinct, if at all.

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2018/02/23/588346329/epis...

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We are probably not far from needing a new mattress ourselves and I’ve been looking at all these companies. Minus Purple, most of them seem fairly similar within a degrees of each other. Has anyone who wasn’t a fan of memory foam mattresses been swayed by any of these companies? We live in the south and haven’t liked the few we’ve tried for them sleeping hot and general feel. Kind of wish I could try before I buy.

I highly recommend looking into Spindle Mattress. It's all latex and wool/cotton and sleeps a lot cooler than memory foam. You sort of put it together yourself (i.e. Put three thick sections of latex in a zippered cover) but this also also allows for a bit of adjustment (reorganize the layers which come in various finesses). The whole thing weighs a ton and ships in three separate boxes.

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I own a Hästens bed, which is supposedly among the best box springs (with a horsehair topper) you can buy. I also own a latex mattress from IKEA, made by a really famous latex manufacturer, which has been discontinued to sell inferior options. These are good, but in my case they couldn't beat a setup that is an order of magnitude cheaper, simpler and better. A simple custom-made japanese shikibuton, filled with felte…

>A simple custom-made japanese shikibuton, filled with felted wool panels and a buckwheat pillow. I put this on a modular set of bed slates to avoid insects, get better airing and avoid cold floors Can you explain your "bed slates" further? All I want is a simple raised wooden platform, and they're absurdly expensive. Bed frames in general seem like a totally messes up market; Ikea's fucking slats could drive a man t…

What does "absurdly expensive" in this context mean? There are many companies that make affordable wooden platform beds. kd frames is a good one:

https://kdframes.com/collections/beds/products/asheville-pla...

https://kdframes.com/collections/beds/products/fold-platform...

$150 for a full-size platform that folds and is made of solid wood seems like a good price to me.

You can get lower if you go for a metal frame, e.g. Zinus:

https://www.amazon.com/Zinus-Platform-Mattress-Foundation-Bo...

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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I own a Hästens bed, which is supposedly among the best box springs (with a horsehair topper) you can buy. I also own a latex mattress from IKEA, made by a really famous latex manufacturer, which has been discontinued to sell inferior options. These are good, but in my case they couldn't beat a setup that is an order of magnitude cheaper, simpler and better. A simple custom-made japanese shikibuton, filled with felte…

Could you elaborat on the IKEA mattress? What was the model name and who was the famous manufacturer?
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