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Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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Answer to title is the same answer to the question, "Why there are so many mattress stores"... profit margin.

Right.

And once someone figured out that you can roll and vacuum seal a mattress and ship UPS - lots of online stores.

Writing this while laying on an Avacado latex mattress.... HATED every second of mattress store nonsense... oh you’re having a sale just today!? My goodness how lucky! :/

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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So stupid question. Are mattresses in a box actually viable? What changed in recent years that make it work? I assumed you'd just end up with a mattress with messed up springs.

The mattresses are memory foam and/or latex and don't have springs in them.

My latex does have springs (avacado) and was still vacuum sealed.

If your distribution model has always been freight no need to try anything else - then someone came along and did something else.

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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I own a Hästens bed, which is supposedly among the best box springs (with a horsehair topper) you can buy. I also own a latex mattress from IKEA, made by a really famous latex manufacturer, which has been discontinued to sell inferior options. These are good, but in my case they couldn't beat a setup that is an order of magnitude cheaper, simpler and better. A simple custom-made japanese shikibuton, filled with felte…

>A simple custom-made japanese shikibuton, filled with felted wool panels and a buckwheat pillow. I put this on a modular set of bed slates to avoid insects, get better airing and avoid cold floors Can you explain your "bed slates" further? All I want is a simple raised wooden platform, and they're absurdly expensive. Bed frames in general seem like a totally messes up market; Ikea's fucking slats could drive a man t…

I got a local carpenter to build me something like this:

https://zafu.net/wp-content/uploads/ecosquaresbedframeviewsm...

The idea is simple, just some blocks you connect (2 or 4) and some legs, so it's easy to ship and transport. The design above is good, but IMHO it's better to have some flexible wood. Especially if you are a side sleeper.

You can usually buy decent ones in the US or UK for $150 if you look for futon platforms. If you want some flexibility but you don't want to go the custom route, buy a tatami raised platform and buy a tatami.

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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As an American that moved to Europe before I was old enough to ever buy an expensive mattress, what Americans spend on mattresses is always incredibly baffling. New, king sized (1.8 x 2.0 m), mattresses go for €200-1500 (about $250-1800) in Germany, with prices gravitating towards the lower end of the spectrum. Americans use much springier mattresses (box springs are unheard of here, and foam mattresses are standard)…

If this is interesting look at how often Americans think they have to change the oil in their vehicles. Even if said oil is synthetic.

"think"? The manufacturer specifies the interval, and you best follow it if you'd like your warranty honored.

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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I own a Hästens bed, which is supposedly among the best box springs (with a horsehair topper) you can buy. I also own a latex mattress from IKEA, made by a really famous latex manufacturer, which has been discontinued to sell inferior options. These are good, but in my case they couldn't beat a setup that is an order of magnitude cheaper, simpler and better. A simple custom-made japanese shikibuton, filled with felte…

>I don't understand why this alternative is not more popular in the West. > Every 6 months, compost hulls, buy new ones, and wash cover. Every month, empty hulls into a bad and wash cover. Alternatively: Have a mattress for 10 years, do nothing.

My latex foam mattress has a 25 year full warranty. If it sags or cimpresses more than 1 inch, I can have it replaced. 25 year warranties aren't out if the ordinary now.

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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I own a Hästens bed, which is supposedly among the best box springs (with a horsehair topper) you can buy. I also own a latex mattress from IKEA, made by a really famous latex manufacturer, which has been discontinued to sell inferior options. These are good, but in my case they couldn't beat a setup that is an order of magnitude cheaper, simpler and better. A simple custom-made japanese shikibuton, filled with felte…

>A simple custom-made japanese shikibuton, filled with felted wool panels and a buckwheat pillow. I put this on a modular set of bed slates to avoid insects, get better airing and avoid cold floors Can you explain your "bed slates" further? All I want is a simple raised wooden platform, and they're absurdly expensive. Bed frames in general seem like a totally messes up market; Ikea's fucking slats could drive a man t…

> At some point im going to be forced to build the damn thing myself if the market is going to refuse to sell anything sensible.

Why wait? If all you want is a simple platform, you couldn’t beat the price of buying and cutting some wood yourself.

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At last I have an excuse for not making the bed in the morning. ;-) When my kids were tots and we took them to day care, the day care center had a collection of little beds for naps, which were some kind of durable fabric mesh stretched over a frame. I've often wondered how that would work as a general purpose mattress for adults, with little chance of festering over time.

You mean something like army cots[1]? [1] http://armynavysuperstores.com/cots.htm

(Plenty functional, not that comfortable)

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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I own a Hästens bed, which is supposedly among the best box springs (with a horsehair topper) you can buy. I also own a latex mattress from IKEA, made by a really famous latex manufacturer, which has been discontinued to sell inferior options. These are good, but in my case they couldn't beat a setup that is an order of magnitude cheaper, simpler and better. A simple custom-made japanese shikibuton, filled with felte…

I’d be interested in seeing pics and info, especially your washable shikibuton. Or if not maybe pointers to the research you did to make it.

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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We bought a Tuft and Needle mattress three years ago, and it's been fantastic. A few other friends have bought mattresses online and all been very happy. If it's all a marketing ploy, as the article implies, then there's a lot of happy people benefiting. ;)

Of course it's a marketing ploy! Mattresses are a great example of an area where the marketing ploys are really an inescapable part of the perception of value. If you think you're buying a great, innovative mattress design, you'll probably continue to believe that unless it's quite bad.

They've just switched us from feeling like we can pick the right mattress through trying a dozen in a store to reading online reviews. Both are biased, but everyone needs some way to feel confident about a big purchase.

Re: Why there are so many online mattress-in-a-box companies

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Somewhat ironic that the article comments about MemoryFoamTalk not disclosing comissions from Nectar and then provides an (undisclosed) affiliate link. I have a Leesa as it was the only mattress (at the time) which fit my bed properly. The fact that all these companies can offer 100-365 day trials does hint at how stupidly large the margins are.

I think the reason the 100+ day trials are successful for the companies is that it's a huge pain to box up and ship back a mattress. Also most people don't have room to hold onto the old mattress for several months while they try out the new one on trial. I imagine a lot of people therefore keep 'good enough' mattresses vs sending them back.
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