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Re: TweetDelete – Automatically delete your posts that are older than a maximum age

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Post by goatsi »

greglindahl wrote: post #80
ams6110 wrote: post #9

Services such as this cannot delete a tweet from other services or people who archive them or even just take a screenshot. You still have to assume that anything to post on Twitter will be public forever.

By the way, official users of the Twitter firehose are required to honor tweet deletes. So while it is certainly the case that some kinds of archives (based on scrapers or screenshots or whatever) will keep tweets forever, other kinds do not.

Does twitter provide a stream of deleted tweets to tell them what to remove? Now that would be very interesting data to look at.

Re: TweetDelete – Automatically delete your posts that are older than a maximum age

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Post by greglindahl »

goatsi wrote: post #101
greglindahl wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By the way, official users of the Twitter firehose are required to honor tweet deletes. So while it is certainly the case that some kinds of archives (based on scrapers or screenshots or whatever) will keep tweets forever, other kinds do not.

Does twitter provide a stream of deleted tweets to tell them what to remove? Now that would be very interesting data to look at.

They apparently do, and indeed it would be far more interesting than the rest of the firehose! Especially for politicians and the like, it would label tweets with examining. Most would be typos, the rest could be gold.

Re: TweetDelete – Automatically delete your posts that are older than a maximum age

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Post by doomlaser »

scrollaway wrote: post #89
slyall wrote: post #77

Of course widespread use of this will mean tweets are less useful. You won't be able to find that book/movie that somebody talked about or their great analysis of some topic. ie also on the front page today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16727319 which links to a series of tweets, the top comment in HN is: "I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days."

I've seldom seen any tweet carry information for longer than a few days. The combination of the messages being small, threads being hard to read, and tweets being hard to search makes them an atrociously bad medium to store information. It's kinda like IRC discussions but almost worse. It's a shame because there's a lot of information stored in there... it's just not accessible.

they're useful in gauging public responses to events or products, and old ones can be particularly useful to see how something was viewed in its time.

you can get pretty fancy with date range searches at https://twitter.com/search-advanced

I use it to read the pulse on all sorts of things all the time. I even have 't' set as an address bar hotkey trigger for https://twitter.com/search?q=%s on every browser that supports the functionality.

Re: TweetDelete – Automatically delete your posts that are older than a maximum age

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Post by tikhonj »

slyall wrote: post #77

Of course widespread use of this will mean tweets are less useful. You won't be able to find that book/movie that somebody talked about or their great analysis of some topic. ie also on the front page today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16727319 which links to a series of tweets, the top comment in HN is: "I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days."

Thanks to the quality of Twitter's search, I already can't find that book/movie that somebody talked about unless I liked/retweeted it. It's actually pretty frustrating: I remember seeing something in my Twitter feed, I want to show it to somebody, and I simply can't find it again even if I just saw it a day ago...

Re: TweetDelete – Automatically delete your posts that are older than a maximum age

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Post by Buge »

yorby wrote: post #72
Puer wrote: post #30

For people who use Reddit, deleted comments only remove the username and not the content, making it trivial to trace back the original poster. If you delete posts/comments regularly use Shreddit which overwrites the content before deleting it making this trace back much more difficult. https://github.com/x89/Shreddit

This is false for comments... it is true for posts however. Also, reddit once said that they only keep the latest version of a comment in their database (not sure if it is still true though).... so if you want to really delete a comment from reddit, you have to edit it to some random text and then delete it.

It's false for posts as well, if it's a text post. The text of the post is deleted.

If it's a link post, then it isn't deleted.

Re: TweetDelete – Automatically delete your posts that are older than a maximum age

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Post by Buge »

plexicle wrote: post #93
lucb1e wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> deleting your reddit account Ah, that's something completely different.

You're both half-right. Comments that are deleted (either self-deleted, removed by a mod/admin, or deleted from account deletion) will disappear as long as no one replied to it. This behavior is the same, no matter how the comment gets deleted. If the comment has at least one reply, then the username will become [deleted] (or [removed]), but the comment/content will remain.

>If the comment has at least one reply, then the username will become [deleted] (or [removed]), but the comment/content will remain.

That's false. Both the content and the username will be replaced by [deleted] if the user (or a mod) asked for the comment to be deleted, and it had at least 1 reply.

Here's a test I just did:

https://www.reddit.com/r/television+none/comments/88rd9e/net...

Re: TweetDelete – Automatically delete your posts that are older than a maximum age

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Post by comex »

pimlottc wrote: post #82
9034725985 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know that because it is a recent tweet. Now imagine someone deletes all their old tweets programmatically. Several people have screenshots of an "old" tweet as they allegedly saw and "saved". Who do you believe? https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/22ea282...

I don’t see that it would make any difference whether they systematically delete there tweets or not. You could still claim it’s missing due to being specifically deleted.

You can’t prove someone didn’t tweet something, but you can prove they did tweet something - if the tweet hasn’t been deleted, which is the common case for people who don’t systematically delete their tweets.

Re: TweetDelete – Automatically delete your posts that are older than a maximum age

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Post by riquito »

slyall wrote: post #77

Of course widespread use of this will mean tweets are less useful. You won't be able to find that book/movie that somebody talked about or their great analysis of some topic. ie also on the front page today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16727319 which links to a series of tweets, the top comment in HN is: "I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days."

I think that widespread use of this would bring to an opposite "tweetkeep" or enhancements to Wayback Machine
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