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Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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And you have to 'activate' an iOS device with a SIM card. No such need for any android device.

And Apple is in the forefront of pushing for a integrated "SIM", effectively going back to the CDMA days...

Would this be similar to the eSIM in my Pixel 2 XL?

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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Have boycotted Sony ever since their [rootkit DRM][1] in 2005. Seems things have not changed much at the company. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...

Haven't bought A Sony product since they killed Bleem!, the Playstation 1 emulator for PC. That rootkit really hammered it in though.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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My intention -- the next time I buy a TV -- is simply to never tell it my wifi password. Do these things refuse to work without internet access?

they do work without internet access. You can also tell your TV to try to access the internet via Ethernet (w/o having it plugged in) and that will usually shut down all the intrusive BS (at-least on Samsung "smart TVs")

I use a DNS blacklist to prevent my Samsung TV from displaying ads in the UI

https://gist.github.com/peteryates/b44b70d19ccd52f62d66cdd4b...

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #292

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I bought a Vizio P65-C1, excited to have found a modern TV without smart features. Then, a couple months later, an OTA update made it smart. I had to read the fine print to realize that this came with some bullshit "feature" where Vizio auto recognizes whatever I'm watching. I disabled it deep within some totally nonintuitive menu.

> I disabled it deep within some totally nonintuitive menu. Have you monitored it's network activity? If not, how can you be certain the "disable menu" was not actually a placebo?

It very well may be.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days. For future HN context, as the author I'm reproducing them here in full: My @Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app from https://samba.tv and boy oh boy... this is worse than recent @facebook stuff. From their own privacy policy: https://samba.tv/legal/privacy-policy/ … they track what you w…

Please don't call Samba.tv just 'Samba'. We (the Samba project) have trademark on Samba, which is for the file server, authentication and print server that runs on Unix boxes and allows interoperability with Microsoft Windows. Samba.tv is... Something else. It has nothing to do with us.

Have you considered a cease and desist? I think the name is sufficiently similar to cause confusion.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days. For future HN context, as the author I'm reproducing them here in full: My @Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app from https://samba.tv and boy oh boy... this is worse than recent @facebook stuff. From their own privacy policy: https://samba.tv/legal/privacy-policy/ … they track what you w…

I do put TVs on a separate VLAN and also cameras, phones, IoT stuff (those get the SEWER VLAN). I run a pfSense router and am seriously considering SSL splice in Squid in transparent mode for some of that lot. SSL Splice is nearly a MitM but does not need trustable faked SSL certificates, but you do get more logging and the ability to make certain URLs vanish. Now if the security of the device is crap enough to believe faked certs then why not try the full Bump and see what the bloody thing is really up to ...

If nothing else my SEWER VLAN has a very strange view of DNS (thanks pfBlocker) and a rather limited view of the internet as a whole.

Squid docs on Bump etc: https://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/SslPeekAndSplice

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #55

I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days. For future HN context, as the author I'm reproducing them here in full: My @Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app from https://samba.tv and boy oh boy... this is worse than recent @facebook stuff. From their own privacy policy: https://samba.tv/legal/privacy-policy/ … they track what you w…

You can find Nexus Players at some retailers and as used merchandise. Highly recommend the device!

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #55

I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days. For future HN context, as the author I'm reproducing them here in full: My @Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app from https://samba.tv and boy oh boy... this is worse than recent @facebook stuff. From their own privacy policy: https://samba.tv/legal/privacy-policy/ … they track what you w…

Please don't call Samba.tv just 'Samba'. We (the Samba project) have trademark on Samba, which is for the file server, authentication and print server that runs on Unix boxes and allows interoperability with Microsoft Windows. Samba.tv is... Something else. It has nothing to do with us.

Absolutely. I nearly choked when I saw the name.

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #55

I'm the author and linking to my tweets is a bad idea because they auto-delete after 14 days. For future HN context, as the author I'm reproducing them here in full: My @Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app from https://samba.tv and boy oh boy... this is worse than recent @facebook stuff. From their own privacy policy: https://samba.tv/legal/privacy-policy/ … they track what you w…

Please don't call Samba.tv just 'Samba'. We (the Samba project) have trademark on Samba, which is for the file server, authentication and print server that runs on Unix boxes and allows interoperability with Microsoft Windows. Samba.tv is... Something else. It has nothing to do with us.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's very useful to call out the consumer on this -- it might make sense to go after Samba.tv in court to prevent them from using the trademark.

(BTW, I do really appreciate all the work done on samba over the past few decades, so thanks!).

Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app

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post #143

The meme of "if you're not paying, you are the product" is, of course, true, but it doesn't acknowledge the host of cases when you are the product even if you're paying . This guy basically paid to be spied on.

First day I used my Pixel 2 XL I saw ads in the Gmail app. I mean, this is not some $100 phone. I paid 1k for it and Google still showed me ads in Gmail.

The ads are there because you're using gmail the service, not because you're using gmail the app. If you use "gmail the app" with your own imap server or a paid google apps account, you will not see ads.
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