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1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

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Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

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Does KPMG employ technology people? I thought they did only financial audits.

First of all, KPMG is the name of a group. All the Big Four are arranged as group companies, a single financial entity owns the name (e.g "KPMG", "EY") from some friendly place, (London in all but one case) and licenses out the right to operate a member company to professional services companies in various jurisdictions around the world. The group has the famous name, and sets some rules about training and compliance…

I think it's somewhere in between, the article itself states:

"to audit our code and practices annually and publish a public report confirming we're doing what we said we would."

I run an investment fund (hedge fund) and we are completing our required annual audit (not by KPMG). It is quite thorough, they manually check balances in our bank accounts directly with the bank, they verify balances directly off blockchain (it's a crypto fund) and have us prove ownership of keys by signing messages, etc. And they do do a due diligence (lots of doodoo there) that we are not doing scammy things like the equivalent of having a raspberry pi attached to the network. Now this is extremely tough of course, and they are limited in what they can accomplish there, but the thought does cross their mind. All firms are different, but from what we've seen most auditors do decent good jobs most of the time. Their reputation can only be hit so many times before their name is no longer valuable to be an auditor.

Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

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post #281

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The most useful case for this shortcut is 127.1 -> 127.0.0.1

0 , which is a shorthand for 0.0.0.0 is likely the most code-golf-y way to write localhost , as many [EDIT: Linux] systems alias 0.0.0.0 to 127.0.0.1: $ ping 0 PING 0 (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.032 ms Of course, don't expect this to work universally. A lot of software will try to be clever with input validation, and fail. Tangentially related: https://fosdem.or…

Stays unaliased on macOS:

My-MacBook-Pro:bottle mrkstu$ ping 0 PING 0 (0.0.0.0): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: No route to host

Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

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post #278

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If this were to become an issue, I guess Cloudflare could try to disable SNI.

The client sends SNI, so how could the server opt out?

You just solved your own question. Cloudflare creates an opensource client that users install locally.

Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

#304

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But not every criticism is as high quality as every other criticism. The above for example is just low quality nitpicking.

So what's your take on hashcode of the IP considered as "not logging the IP" (and other stuff edited in comment)?

That wasn't cited so I'm not sure it has a basis.

Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

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post #272

Is there a way to use Cloudflare's new DNS servers with Simple DNSCrypt? ( https://simplednscrypt.org/ )

Yes, just select "Cloudflare" in the list. It's been available in the public list for quite some time already.

I see it on the list, but is it referring to the 1.1.1.1 server?

Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

#306

> What many Internet users don't realize is that even if you're visiting a website that is encrypted — has the little green lock in your browser — that doesn't keep your DNS resolver from knowing the identity of all the sites you visit. That means, by default, your ISP, every wifi network you've connected to, and your mobile network provider have a list of every site you've visited while using them. > Network operato…

It’s a step in the right direction. Also is TLS1.3. not supposed to encrypt SNI?

Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

#307

This is bad, bad, bad advice. You don't set the DNS on your local machine. That breaks things. The DNS needs to be set at the gateway. If you change your PC/mac's DNS to an external service, you won't be able to resolve any addresses on the local network. Come on, CloudFlare. You guys know better than that. Please stop breaking the (local) internet.

> If you change your PC/mac's DNS to an external service, you won't be able to resolve any addresses on the local network.

What does this mean? I have 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 set and they work fine for resolving things on my local network?

I can even connect to things with avahi like `xxyyzz.local`.

Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

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Bear in mind, Google's changed its mind before and can again at any time. For instance, when they bought DoubleClick they promised not to connect it with the Google account data they had. Then they changed that policy later.

That does not change the the fact that Cloudflare is insinuating something something about Google's DNS.

Is the suggestion that a company whose main business is targeting ads based on collecting data about you might be collecting data about you an unfair insinuation?

Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

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$ ping 1.1.1.1 PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=47 time=214.866 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=47 time=173.416 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=45 time=256.007 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=45 time=196.638 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=45 time=294.694 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=45 time=314.883 ms 64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: ic…

Bangalore, India

  $ ping 1.1.1.1
  PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
  64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=13.8 ms
  64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=59 time=14.6 ms
  64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=59 time=13.7 ms
  64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=59 time=14.1 ms
  64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=59 time=13.7 ms
  64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=59 time=15.3 ms
  $ ping 8.8.8.8
  PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
  64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=43.5 ms
  64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=42.3 ms
  64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=43.1 ms
  64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=4 ttl=46 time=42.0 ms
  64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=5 ttl=46 time=42.4 ms

Re: 1.1.1.1: Fast, privacy-first consumer DNS service

#310
So, one thing I'd love to see clarified: APNIC was interested in studying the junk traffic to 1.1.1.1. Cloudflare's DNS will not log or track. So what is logged and tracked for APNIC's research purposes? Everything but DNS? Everything but DNS and HTTPS requests directly to 1.1.1.1 (presumably people looking for details on Cloudflare DNS?).

What's being studied?

Fun fact: CCNA classes regularly use 1.1.1.1 as a router-id. Really good reason now not to configure it via a loopback address.

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