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This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…

Unfortunately there will be no prizes for having been right all along. Even now, as facebook is burning, statements of how one has quit or will be quitting facebook get swept into the pile of incendiary indignation, with encouragement from all sides. But never having used facebook, even at significant personal effort as you indicate, one is relegated from "elitist" before to "smug" now. One day in the future a recrui…

Facebook is burning. Lol. They suffer a minor setback and they're "burning". Right now there is not much of alternative to facebook, it will be just fine.

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This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…

> I have always refused to send that type of images/videos/audios Isn't it still trivial to self-host stuff? Just send a link to picture (or document or whatever confidential information you want to share) to a password-protected resource on your own server (or even a laptop or desktop machine, if you have globally routeable IP address there). Facebook automation is not that smart to grab the password from the very s…

Where I live Internet providers deliberately make self hosting anything extremely hard.

Then they charge often 5x or more their normal price to let you host things, but add lots of exceptions, for example all providers put in contract they can immediately cancel your subscription of they detect you hosting anything irc related, doesn't matter of it is a irc server or a irc bot or a server for a open source irc client...

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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Storage costs next to nothing, recovery costs a lot. Why would facebook who depends on this data for income ever delete it. You get two massive benefits from keeping it and setting a "deleted" flag. Why would anyone expect anything different. How entitled do people feel they are.

It's quite simple: if someone says they deleted something, you expect them to delete it. If they don't, they are lying, and you can't really trust them with anything else.

Facebook has been embroiled in back to back privacy scandals since it opened and you still trust them? How much simpler does it get, I agree, that's pretty simplistic!

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In all likelihood, this is simply the tip of the iceberg. I see Twitter's stock is collapsing, due to similar concerns. Nothing is private anymore in this day and age.

And yet - If we're concerned about what Facebook has on us, then just imagine what kind of treasure trove the government sits on.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allow me to ask the obvious question. Who doesn't do the something like this? Not to alleviate facebook of blame, but who's to say data on almost every other social media service isn't also just flagged for deletion?

> Not to alleviate facebook of blame, but who's to say data on almost every other social media service isn't also just flagged for deletion? The word "delete" has a pretty clear definition to most users. Facebook is one of the most used pieces of software in the world. If FB is allowed to lie to its users, it would indeed give a pass to just about every social media service out there. The reason Facebook is special,…

A more prudent question would be whether these tech companies should be reined in by federal privacy law. Should they be allowed to collect, trade and analyze private data on all of its users? Where do we draw the line in the sand, in terms of what's acceptable and not.

These are incredibly important questions. A related field would be the credit bureaus, such as Equifax. Global companies who store social security numbers and all other sorts of information. We need a national set of rules for these companies to follow.

Not keeping my hopes up, given our Congress is so dysfunctional these days.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute. Many of my colleagues believe the same thing that I believe: Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space. No reason to believe. You can read about the storage architecture used to store photos from a post in 2009 here: https://code.…

Allow me to ask the obvious question. Who doesn't do the something like this? Not to alleviate facebook of blame, but who's to say data on almost every other social media service isn't also just flagged for deletion?

Yeah i don't see much difference between this and hitting delete on a file in a local file system. The data itself still sits there until the sectors gets reclaimed, but there is no longer a file name or directory entry associated with them.

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You mean they follow what many people consider best practices? https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1592... https://stackoverflow.com/questions/820466/never-delete-entr... https://serverfault.com/questions/31455/should-i-ever-delete... https://www.infoq.com/news/2009/09/Do-Not-Delete-Data http://udidahan.com/2009/09/01/dont-delete-just-dont/ https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2549839/are-soft-dele…

After so many links, let me just answer with a link as well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

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