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Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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That's not true. What if you want to support un-delete? That's a reason.

To my knowledge there is and has never been any option to “undelete” your deleted content on Facebook.

I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least a way to deal with large-scale account hijacking, where the hijacker deleted lots of hijacked accounts' content.

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Data doesn’t have to be PII to fall under the provisions of the GDPR. Personal Data doesn’t have to identify a person; relates to an identified or identifiable living individual is sufficient ( https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo... )

Unless I'm misreading, that criteria rules out data about individuals that are not identified and can't be identified. When looking at a single datum by itself, this seems to rule out anything except PII i.e. data that identifies or can be used to identify an individual.

I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying, but I think you’re misreading ”Different pieces of information, which collected together can lead to the identification of a particular person, also constitute personal data.”

What that says is that, if (A,B,C) identifies a person, each of A, B, and C, in isolation, is personal data, not that you will be allowed to keep the pair (A,B) if it doesn’t.

One mathematically can cut each bit of information in units of arbitrarily small entropy. So, if taken to the letter, “this user is not Mark Zuckerberg” would be personal data. I doubt jurisprudence will go that far, but we’ll see.

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This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…

> I have always refused to send that type of images/videos/audios Isn't it still trivial to self-host stuff? Just send a link to picture (or document or whatever confidential information you want to share) to a password-protected resource on your own server (or even a laptop or desktop machine, if you have globally routeable IP address there). Facebook automation is not that smart to grab the password from the very s…

"trivial" and "your own server" together? :) Maybe for some code monkey, but not for my mom. :(

I really do wish self-hosting were more trivial, it would be a better world.

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Someone should mention also that in the downloadable facebook archive, in the html/ folder, there is a file called contact_info.htm and its a pretty large file. It is apparently every google contact you ever had, all synced to facebook, for every device you ever logged into. So, if you ever might have used a friends device to check your facebook account using then facebook app, then all of that persons contacts are t…

I’ve let quite a few people log into the Facebook app on my phone and now I’m pissed. I was always careful with privacy settings on Facebook, but the thought never even crossed my mind of what I’d be “agreeing” to by letting someone briefly use my phone. I’m sure someone will come along shortly to tell me I deserve it and should have know better and was asking for it but whatever. How will the GDPR handle instances l…

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Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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post #172

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Facial recognition means all pictures with a face are personal data?

No clue. All I did was rule out anything that can't be used to identify someone. Whether information that can only be used to identify someone but doesn't tell you anything useful about them is still personal data is unclear to me.

If in doubt, a picture tells you medical information.

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I would think this is common practice.

I know that YouTube, for example, retains videos indefinitely, because I've personally been able to retrieve videos that were deleted in as early as 2006.

It was possible for anyone to do this until some time in 2017, when they started requiring signatures for RTSP streams. All that was needed was the video ID (the eleven characters in every YouTube video URL). Didn't matter if they were private (IDs for these could be enumerated if the channel ID was known), "deleted" over ten years ago, or behind a paywall.

From ~2008 until 2015, you could do the same but with higher quality streams through the now-retired Apple TV API.

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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A lot of these revelations are coming from the fact that Facebook allows you to download the information it has stored about you.

There is an exceedingly high chance that the managers are going to notice this. And, rather than doing the right thing by storing less information, they are going to lie about what they have, and put a filter in place regarding what they let you download (a bit) vs. what they actually have (everything).

We need to be nuanced in our approach to the world, but it is becoming increasingly clear that Facebook has created a business model that incentivizes (and maybe depends on) evil behavior.

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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Allow me to ask the obvious question. Who doesn't do the something like this? Not to alleviate facebook of blame, but who's to say data on almost every other social media service isn't also just flagged for deletion?

> Not to alleviate facebook of blame, but who's to say data on almost every other social media service isn't also just flagged for deletion? The word "delete" has a pretty clear definition to most users. Facebook is one of the most used pieces of software in the world. If FB is allowed to lie to its users, it would indeed give a pass to just about every social media service out there. The reason Facebook is special,…

I would think undelete also has a clear definition. Technical implementation is orthogonal to these kinds of definitions.
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