My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app
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Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app
#2The meme of "if you're not paying, you are the product" is, of course, true, but it doesn't acknowledge the host of cases when you are the product even if you're paying. This guy basically paid to be spied on.
Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app
#3> This information is then used to market to you within the TV and offer you a "hot list"... but it is also used to "Detect, investigate and prevent fraudulent transactions and other illegal activities and protect the rights, safety and property of Samba and others"
This app pushes ads and tries to protect everybody except the user!
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#4to be honest, sony have a track record of doing this. bought a music CD or games? get a rootkit.
if you still buy sony products, I can't be sory for you.
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#5to be honest, sony have a track record of doing this. bought a music CD or games? get a rootkit. if you still buy sony products, I can't be sory for you.
> if you still buy sony products, I can't be sory for you.
Such condescension towards those not in the know, even though they are likely allies or soon will be, is pernicious and self-defeating.
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#6This sort of crap makes me think a manufacturer should brand a dumb tv, and simply market: "it's just a high end tv without all the crap we know you hate and dont use anyways, also the CIA can't hack it"
https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/15421326/smart-tv-hacking...
Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app
#7Netflix also tracks what you watch, most likely where as well (since the app is on so many devices).
Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app
#8If this happens under EU jurisdiction, then you can deny the update and legally demand that the TV continues working. The manufacturer may not impose new rules after the selling contract.
Fuck this wild-west anarchistic behaviour of software companies. When we have legal protection, we can make use of it.
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#9I hope EU will push more laws, when you buy hardware like a smatphone,TV,PC all the extra crap on top should be opt-in not opt-out, I bought an ASUS cheap smartphone(new, unlocked no carrier contracts) and it has extra apps on top of the basic Android that I can only disable and not remove.
At startup there should be a prompt with suggested apps that they want the user to install, if the user selects an app to install it(after reading the description) then pull that app from the store.
Re: My Sony "smart" TV has updated itself and tried to force me to use a new app
#10This sort of crap makes me think a manufacturer should brand a dumb tv, and simply market: "it's just a high end tv without all the crap we know you hate and dont use anyways, also the CIA can't hack it" https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/15421326/smart-tv-hacking...
I am quite angry that my PS4 is full of ads. I paid money for that box.
What I want is a law that requires a product to clearly indicate if it has ads or not in the software, and it cannot change at any point in the product's life. So I know what the price tag actually is.
Edit: I want to be clear. I am not against advertising or the freedom for a manufacturer to decide that advertising is their business model. What I want is to protect consumers who pay for a product that slowly devolves into an advertising box. I am also not expecting my rush-designed law to prevent ads or give consumers more options. All it would do is make it clear to consumers what they're paying for.
Advertising is just another form of payment. Imagine if you bought a smart fridge and 3 years in it required a subscription to use the "smart" part of it. You would be furious.