Someone should mention also that in the downloadable facebook archive, in the html/ folder, there is a file called contact_info.htm and its a pretty large file. It is apparently every google contact you ever had, all synced to facebook, for every device you ever logged into. So, if you ever might have used a friends device to check your facebook account using then facebook app, then all of that persons contacts are there too, as well as their sms history metadata and call history metadata.
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Data doesn’t have to be PII to fall under the provisions of the GDPR. Personal Data doesn’t have to identify a person; relates to an identified or identifiable living individual is sufficient ( https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo... )
Unless I'm misreading, that criteria rules out data about individuals that are not identified and can't be identified. When looking at a single datum by itself, this seems to rule out anything except PII i.e. data that identifies or can be used to identify an individual.
Facial recognition means all pictures with a face are personal data?
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#173You mean they follow what many people consider best practices?
https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1592...
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/820466/never-delete-entr...
https://serverfault.com/questions/31455/should-i-ever-delete...
https://www.infoq.com/news/2009/09/Do-Not-Delete-Data
http://udidahan.com/2009/09/01/dont-delete-just-dont/
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2549839/are-soft-deletes...
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/soft-delete-for-azure...
I find it fascinating how much shock there is that Facebook is doing what nearly everyone else is doing, and what many people here have likely implemented.
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#175Secretly? Secretly from whom?
There is nothing I've come across, ever, that has lead me to believe that Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc., ever delete anything, ever. Not even to clean up space as some people on this thread are suggesting. Hard drive space is cheap and data is valuable. This isn't a secret, this is a fairly obvious business practice that all the big players, and most competent small players, are engaging in.
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#176This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…
> I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute. Many of my colleagues believe the same thing that I believe: Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space. No reason to believe. You can read about the storage architecture used to store photos from a post in 2009 here: https://code.…
Allow me to ask the obvious question.
Who doesn't do the something like this?
Not to alleviate facebook of blame, but who's to say data on almost every other social media service isn't also just flagged for deletion?
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#177Secretly? Secretly from whom? There is nothing I've come across, ever, that has lead me to believe that Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc., ever delete anything, ever. Not even to clean up space as some people on this thread are suggesting. Hard drive space is cheap and data is valuable. This isn't a secret, this is a fairly obvious business practice that all the big players, and most competent small players, are engagin…
Google deletes your data within I think 64 days if you request them to or delete your account.
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#178This (and the GDPR - even though my company is in the US) are why I now tell the developers on my team to not collect info unless they have a definitive use case as to why to store it. And make sure to delete delete data as soon as it is no longer needed. It helps that my business doesn't monetize via advertising. My guess is what actually happened here is that they had a use case to store it for a few hours or so (i…
Please don't break the site guidelines by going on about downvotes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
My apologies, dang. I did not realize and/or forgot that was against the guidelines. Will not happen again.
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#179Secretly? Secretly from whom? There is nothing I've come across, ever, that has lead me to believe that Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc., ever delete anything, ever. Not even to clean up space as some people on this thread are suggesting. Hard drive space is cheap and data is valuable. This isn't a secret, this is a fairly obvious business practice that all the big players, and most competent small players, are engagin…
Clearly there is a big disconnect here. It seems somebody is suggesting there should be a correlation between a user removing content from their account and Facebook destroying some of Facebook property.
Anything submitted to Facebook is the property of Facebook. Users have no business telling Facebook to destroy Facebook property.
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#180I can't believe people don't pay attention. Facebook never removed any data generated, they just remove the index from the data. Deleted data is can be more valuable than data that is kept there.