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Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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Post by Capaverde »

Lol I'm not impressed by anything at this point. I thought it was clear from the start, they don't care about you, you're the "useds" of facebook, as Stallman would say. But still, every new evidence that comes up confirming this must make into a separate headline, and we'll keep on getting plenty of those until... I don't know. Until it either dies or rebrands itself well enough to pretend all of this never happened, I suppose.

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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Post by raverbashing »

dividuum wrote: post #57
guessmyname wrote: post #8

This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…

> I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute. Many of my colleagues believe the same thing that I believe: Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space. No reason to believe. You can read about the storage architecture used to store photos from a post in 2009 here: https://code.…

So, like a filesystem more or less

I might just "help" them by uploading more data I guess

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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Post by contravariant »

Someone wrote: post #102
matthewmacleod wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not a GDPR lawyer, but I do live with one. My understanding is that an image is by itself PII, regardless of whether or not it has any additional information associated with it. I don’t think there’s a way to retain images without contravening GDPR.

Data doesn’t have to be PII to fall under the provisions of the GDPR. Personal Data doesn’t have to identify a person; relates to an identified or identifiable living individual is sufficient ( https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo... )

Unless I'm misreading, that criteria rules out data about individuals that are not identified and can't be identified.

When looking at a single datum by itself, this seems to rule out anything except PII i.e. data that identifies or can be used to identify an individual.

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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Post by skybrian »

WovenTales wrote: post #33

The most unsettling part is in Facebook's response: “We’ve heard that when accessing their information from our Download Your Information tool, some people are seeing their old videos that do not appear on their profile or Activity Log. We are investigating.” Who wants to bet against their investigation being “how to keep users from seeing it.” Anyone?

It's upsetting that the bug exists in the first place, but there's nothing unsettling about this response. Have you ever reported a bug to an Internet company before? What do you expect them to say?

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Post by ridgeguy »

wormseed wrote: post #16
guessmyname wrote: post #8

This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…

> I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute. Many of my colleagues believe the same thing that I believe: Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space. This is a dumb conspiracy theory. Facebook has made plenty of public statements that say otherwise, and there's a whole team t…

Looking online briefly for definitions of "delete":

"remove or obliterate (written or printed matter), especially by drawing a line through it or marking it with a delete sign."

"synonyms: remove, cut out, take out, edit out, expunge, excise, eradicate, cancel"

All of these seem clearly "absolute" to me. "Delete" means it's gone.

I think Facebook has its own special linguistic distortion field. It requires no "dumb conspiracy theory" to realize that Facebook cannot be trusted.

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Post by jadedhacker »

feelin_googley wrote: post #88

"The guy who was showing me around pointed out where they were building "apartments for our people to live". "So they'll work on campus, they'll eat on campus, they'll socialise on campus and now they'll sleep on campus?" I asked. I wondered whether maybe that was kind of unhealthy. Creepy, even. My guide looked right at me, and for a moment, his megawatt smile faltered. When he first worked there, it reminded him of…

Everything's sound in the company town. Next thing you know it'll be really convenient to introduce a system, similar to colleges where you have FBucks on your company ID. You need never venture outside, in fact you can fill your fbucks straight from your paycheck!

Eventually, you forget how much the conversation rate between fbucks and usd is, but dismiss any wierdness as a convenience fee, you're well paid right?

Next thing you know, you can't leave because there's no reasonable housing elsewhere in the city. And so on.

Edit: Even if it doesn't become even more dystopic for the worker, who now lives every moment inside the company and is alienated from their fellow humans, including increasingly the ability to think dissent thoughts (no where is safe even home) the company has succeeded in capturing back most of the money they paid to their workforce. It puts the lie to the notion that the presence of profits filters out to the rest of the city and increases inequality.

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