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Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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The most unsettling part is in Facebook's response: “We’ve heard that when accessing their information from our Download Your Information tool, some people are seeing their old videos that do not appear on their profile or Activity Log. We are investigating.” Who wants to bet against their investigation being “how to keep users from seeing it.” Anyone?

I honestly don't understand this cynicism. Facebook does not want your deleted video, and they certainly don't want to keep it given the current media frenzy, with the CEO under fire. Every application of any complexity has features which inactivate, but don't delete data. At Facebook scale, deleting data is non-trivial, and it would be impossible to immediately delete something. We all have bugs, including extremely…

they had to have the tool for gdpr. not because they are good guys

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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Trump has many supporters(not me). I don't think any facebook users particularly like facebook, it's just where "everyone" is.

Exactly this. Who even supports FB? The media? No, they hate them because they took all their ad revenue. Republicans? No, they hate them for the censorship controversy that happened a year or so ago, and because it is full of ultra left wing silicon Valley types. Democrats? No, they hate them for the whole Cambridge analytica, Russian data thing. Facebook has made a lot of enemies, and there really isn't any sort of…

They have two major things.

1. Money

2. The fact that they are the only source of information that a good percentage of the world uses.

Money can be used to buy power, and they already have a not-insignificant level of control over the flow of information (which is power itself).

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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"The guy who was showing me around pointed out where they were building "apartments for our people to live". "So they'll work on campus, they'll eat on campus, they'll socialise on campus and now they'll sleep on campus?" I asked. I wondered whether maybe that was kind of unhealthy. Creepy, even. My guide looked right at me, and for a moment, his megawatt smile faltered. When he first worked there, it reminded him of…

I disagree that onsite housing at company HQs is always bad depending on how it's used. Tons of companies are already directly renting housing for interns, newly relocated employees, and then also for shorter terms for people interviewing or on short term business trips. I imagine doing such is in the long term cheaper than the amount currently spent on hotel services for the above population. But yes, long term on c…

I always hear criticism of the Japanese model where the employer provides assistance and coordination for employees’ personal affairs. I am spending too much time at work and don’t have time to tend to errands, cleaning, life admin, etc. with the demands placed on professionals these days why shouldn’t the employer bear some responsibility for my personal home life rather than leave us to figure it out like in the West?

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

#136

Just an anecdote. I had a day set aside to purging my Facebook entries a year or two back. I manually deleted comments and posts. Of course there was too many to do and it was very boring so I only spent a couple of hours at it. But that's nots what's interesting. What happened was that I got a huge uptake of people commenting on some old post I made, like a profile picture change. I think Facebook saw I was purging…

You made changes to old post (deleted comments), so Facebook decided that because there are some updates to old posts - it makes sense to treat these old posts as new. So Facebook started to show these posts to your friends in their news feeds.

Isn't that against the goal of a deletion?

FB should honor intentions and let deleted stuff not be flagged as "new".

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

#137
At what point was any of this news? TOS is clear on this so if this was to bother anyone they would have read that before hand. If I was running a data collection business like google for ad-analytics I wouldn't delete anything either, that's your bottom line your wiping away!

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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Well tbh Asian companies have done this to great success.

I guess that depends on your definition of success.

In my 20's I worked at a megacorp, lived in a corporate dorm and ate at the corporate cafeteria. It's a welcome option and you're perfectly allowed to opt out.

I opted out of the corporate dorm eventually, and so did a handful of others, especially the ones who were from the local area. But it definitely made life simpler for me to transition to a new job and living environment.

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

#139

This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…

Facebook is powerful and insular. Taking it down requires extraordinary organisation. Outrage is helpful in that respect. Agreement is better than disagreement. Would I prefer we had agreement earlier? Yes. Is agreement today better than agreement tomorrow? Absolutely. Now that we have a constituency, the important thing is to mobilise. The past is in the past. Our job, in the present, is to protect the future.

Call for a facebook user strike on May 1st.

#May1FBstrike

https://medium.com/@oddbert2000/call-for-a-facebook-users-st...

Re: Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

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I think the opposite is more likely to be true. This sounds creepy because it is creepy and the only place it seems reasonable is in the increasingly disconnected culture of Silicon Valley.

Many undergraduate, graduate and postgrads live on campus in housing provided by the university, and get paid by the same university. Soldiers in the military live in barracks, even some who would otherwise have the option to live off base. Even expats working for private energy companies abroad sometimes live in corporate housing campuses.

> Many undergraduate, graduate and postgrads live on campus in housing provided by the university

Last I checked, universities weren’t busy papering the world in surveillance, pretending that’s a moral prerogative, refusing summons to the House of Commons, characterising whistleblowers with contempt, and then lying when they get caught acting unethically.

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