Meanwhile, FB share price is on the up again ha
Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted
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#22This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…
> I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute. Many of my colleagues believe the same thing that I believe: Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space. This is a dumb conspiracy theory. Facebook has made plenty of public statements that say otherwise, and there's a whole team t…
Did you read the OP? How can you say that this is a dumb conspiracy theory?
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#23This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…
> I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute. Many of my colleagues believe the same thing that I believe: Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space. This is a dumb conspiracy theory. Facebook has made plenty of public statements that say otherwise, and there's a whole team t…
To be fair though, the article that this comment thread is attached to offers some seemingly direct evidence to support one aspect of this 'dumb' 'conspiracy' 'theory'.
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#24This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…
I think a great way to explain privacy limitations to a non-tech-savvy person is to walk them through using GPG.
Once someone understands public and private keys, and webs of trust, there really isn't much left to learn. For someone who understands keypairs, the limitations of Facebook/Twitter/etc., DRM, etc. are obvious.
It seems most of us are afraid our non-tech-savvy friends and family won't be able to wrap their heads around security, but not understanding it has gotten us into a pretty bad situation. We should really stress the importance of learning about it.
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#25This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…
> Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space. You may be correct, but that doesn't explain why Facebook decided to include so-called deleted files in a download of user data. Clearly these deleted files are still a part of Facebook user profiles and accessible to company data mining software. Facebook has exposed their own duplicity…
Maybe the Facebook development processes and tracking of tech debt is just shit.
First person: "I'll just flag the content and then it won't show on their timeline!"
Second person: "I'll just select all the records that belongs to this account when packaging a backup. All the deleted content should be gone!"
But I wouldn't discount your hypothesis.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook is powerful and insular. Taking it down requires extraordinary organisation. Outrage is helpful in that respect. Agreement is better than disagreement. Would I prefer we had agreement earlier? Yes. Is agreement today better than agreement tomorrow? Absolutely. Now that we have a constituency, the important thing is to mobilise. The past is in the past. Our job, in the present, is to protect the future.
You think people could organize better than against Trump ? seems unlikely
> better than against Trump?
It is more effective to organise for a cause than against a politician. Presidents are intentionally difficult to remove. The bar for promoting action against Facebook is lower than for prompting action against the President.
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#27This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…
"I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute." This is very common, I'm sure. There should be a way to request or a right to request permanent deletion, by law, of one's data on site like Facebook. That said, once something is on the internet, anyone can and will archive it (see https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/ ). Closing an account, however, should imply p…
GDPR is intended to at least force service providers to give folks the right to be forgotten which compels providers to delete data. While it's own Europe, it's difficult to comply without just making general decision about honoring these requests.
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#28This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…
I think a great way to explain privacy limitations to a non-tech-savvy person is to walk them through using GPG. Once someone understands public and private keys, and webs of trust, there really isn't much left to learn. For someone who understands keypairs, the limitations of Facebook/Twitter/etc., DRM, etc. are obvious. It seems most of us are afraid our non-tech-savvy friends and family won't be able to wrap their…
> Once someone understands public and private keys, and webs of trust
Nobody in the general public wants this.
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#29This reminds me of the long conversations that I used to have with family members and friends several years ago. With their continuous requests to create my own Facebook profile so I can keep in contact with them and with their activities as well as to share my whereabouts. I always used the same argument to reject these suggestions — "I don't want Facebook to have too much data about me, more than the data that you…
> I am sure that the deletion of media files in services like Facebook has never meant to be absolute. Many of my colleagues believe the same thing that I believe: Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space. This is a dumb conspiracy theory. Facebook has made plenty of public statements that say otherwise, and there's a whole team t…
I'm not inclined to believe PR statements like these when there's no way to verify them.
Can you support your assertion? The infrequent cases where someone manages to extract or recover supposedly deleted data cast a lot of doubt on your claims.
In any case, even if it's not Facebook specifically, it seems overwhelmingly likely that the majority of companies do not actually delete your data.
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#30Heres something that I noticed earlier today that might be of interest:
420 million Facebook profiles uploaded to archive.org
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/03/the-kiwi-s...