With Kubernetes now being mature and fairly easy to install, you can have essentially your own AWS for peanuts using OVH.
I absolutely see no reason why paying such a premium to use "conventional" cloud providers when you can have your own portable infrastructure nowadays.
OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
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Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
#132Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…
I use OVH's So You Start line and I think my biggest complaint is that they don't allow automatic renewal. Every monthly renewal means manually keying in my card number every month. The only alternative is to pre-pay in 3, 6, or 12 months in advance. It is the only online service I use that doesn't handle auto-renewal.
Once I forgot to login and add funds for a few days. My entire VPS was deleted. Now I don't use OVH.
Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
> -I was "just" using OVH object storage [...] > -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" Have you looked at wasabi.com? They are much cheaper than just about anyone for object store. OVH is 0.0112/GB/mo and Wasabi is 0.0049/GB/mo.
Does wasabi support static web hosting?
Not sure myself, but a quick look in their support area comes up with (below) which seems like it might answer your question.
https://wasabi-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/1150014...
Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the best cdn right now? Cloudfront is just expensive as hell.
Alright, I'll go through the list. * Cloudfront would be great for the North America and Europe they only charged for the bandwidth (those prices are reasonable), but charging for the HTTP request (and the huge premium on HTTPS). The bandwidth prices outside of those areas are absolutely awful though. * Akamai makes Cloudfront look cheap. * Cloudflare has ethical concerns that keep me away from them. * Fastly is susc…
> Akamai makes Cloudfront look cheap.
Completely. I can't believe people actually pay Akamai.
> Fastly is susceptible to DDoS's against the origin in some interesting ways.
Citation requested.
> Cloudflare has ethical concerns that keep me away from them.
Not to mention their product itself isn't too good. I always get forced to Captcha on some ridiculous cloud flare "protected" site, despite not using a VPN or anything out of the ordinary.
Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UI is good enough to set up the storage once and then not ever touch it again. I also enjoy when it randomly switches to French.
That is correct. But it's those times when you need to interact with the dashboard or billing that makes you cringe. I run a business, I can't "afford" that headache. And true about the random French switching.
I only use dashboard when I buy a server and perform installation. It is pretty good these days and automatic renewal also works. In my opinion it is much better than AWS - as in simpler.
Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
#136Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…
I was unable to set up their Open Stack and the support didn't help, but at least I got refund. But their dedicated server is pretty good and you can easily setup Kubernetes on it.
Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
just curious - any particular reason to not enable gzip compression for responses?
$ curl -s https://wtfismyip.com/text|wc -c 16 $ curl -s https://wtfismyip.com/text|gzip -|wc -c 36
nginx for example can enable gzip by content-type or depending on gzip_min_length, it's very flexible. All in all, just curious if there's a deeper reason.
Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
#138As a European, I am sometimes shocked that people in the bay don't know about OVH. AWS, Azure and GCloud are all so good at Marketing themselves that a lot of people don't even hear about alternatives. I used a lot OVH both for private reasons and pushed it into my company. It is by far the cheapest (by a factor of 3-4* in my case), and it is shockingly easy to get to talk to core engineers in case you have any real…
UX matters, that's why. And AWS, Azure, Google aren't even the incumbents. We have Rackspace, Softlayer and several others I'm forgetting.
I'd be afraid to use OVH simply because it's French. What happens if I need serious support on August 15? Is the entire company going to be on vacation?
Also, my fear of needing support on a weekend or a holiday or after 7pm on a weekday or at lunch time.
I don't know if OVH operates like a real French business, but if my experience with Orange, EDF or any other French business is any indication, it would be highly frustrating and risky to build a business around any French company. Then there's the risk of France deciding to heavily tax your business because data might cross through French territory. Suddenly, if you're a non French business but you have a datacenter in France or data transiting through France, now you're going to be subject to the whims of French politicians. Considering how France is suing Apple over the iOS developer program and how they threaten and complain about pretty much any non-EU tech company -- it wouldn't take much for the government to order OVH to shut down your servers or attempt to extort payments.
I'm more afraid of the EU than Amazon.
Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
#139Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…
Most of these GUI differences came during OVH's huge expansion around 2014. At that point they split into several "business lines" (kimsufi/so you start/ovh dedicated/ovh cloud...) that operate mostly independently, and hence the separate logins and interfaces. I'm not saying that it isn't a mess, because it is, but at least there's an explanation. Also, part of the bad interface design seems due to them building pub…
That's actually very fair, I recall that before 2014 I used their old UI and it was not that terrible (other than feeling outdated even then, but outdated is better than nearly unusable).
I found that using OpenStack's CLI utilities is sometimes better than any of their UIs. Unfortunately even then I have to switch to their UI to switch a server to monthly billing (transforming it into more of a VPS than a cloud instance). Wish they handled it the same way as Google does with the sustained usage discount.
Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”
#140Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…
An upvote wasn't enough - I REALLY wanted to work with OVH but their various web portals can't seem to even consistently remember your country or language, billing is a nightmare, etc. One of the few experiences I've had in life where they made working with them (and giving them money) so impossible I began to wonder if they're a front or money laundering operation. To be clear on that point I know they aren't and I'…
Great to know people confirming the horrible experience (actually bittersweet). Happy to know I'm not the "odd one out".