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OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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This is a nice PR bit, but I wonder if it really matters? I would be very reluctant to do a startup centered on, say, GMail or Amazon Marketplace as a platform. If you get too successful, it's too easy for them to say, "Hey, here's a proven high-value business for us to get into." And then they have my customer right there, so I'm screwed. (An example that comes to mind is Swype. They invented the swipeable virtual k…

You can't discount first mover advantage. From your own example, Swype had immense mind and market share for many years, even after Google, Microsoft and others released their own alternatives. They were eventually bought out for over $100 million.

Eventually, I get a new phone. I'm certainly not going to go after Swype if Gboard has its only USP built right in (and better overall integration)

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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I’ve been a customer of theirs for years. Till now I still have to manually key in my credit card details to renew my servers every few months. So yeh, their CEO’s probably right.

OVH has auto-renew though?

Up until early this year autorenew existed in the UI for Canadian servers but didn't do anything.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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I run https://wtfismyip.com on OVH. Egress bandwidth exceeds 8TB a month, which on AWS could cost ~$1000/month, not including the cost of the beefy EC2 instance I would need. For some bandwidth heavy use cases, OVH makes a lot more sense than AWS. In my case it was $150/month versus $2000/month (bandwidth + EC2).

just curious - any particular reason to not enable gzip compression for responses?

    $ curl -s https://wtfismyip.com/text|wc -c
      16
    $ curl -s https://wtfismyip.com/text|gzip -|wc -c
      36

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

> -I was "just" using OVH object storage [...] > -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" Have you looked at wasabi.com? They are much cheaper than just about anyone for object store. OVH is 0.0112/GB/mo and Wasabi is 0.0049/GB/mo.

Does wasabi support static web hosting?

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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AWS bandwidth costs are obscene. They compete on price so well on most other fronts, but for some reason they just completely overcharge on bandwidth. It makes using them without a CDN cost prohibitive and drives a lot of use cases away from them.

What's the best cdn right now? Cloudfront is just expensive as hell.

Check out https://www.cdnperf.com

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

An upvote wasn't enough - I REALLY wanted to work with OVH but their various web portals can't seem to even consistently remember your country or language, billing is a nightmare, etc. One of the few experiences I've had in life where they made working with them (and giving them money) so impossible I began to wonder if they're a front or money laundering operation. To be clear on that point I know they aren't and I'm not accusing them of any wrongdoing, the experience was so appallingly bad I had to come up with a humorous explanation just to rationalize the whole thing.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Care to explain what the business model is here?

https://wtfismyip.com/why There is literally an entire page explaining that there is no business model other than a donation button. There are shockingly people than run websites either as a hobby or to provide a useful service for others with no expectation of making money from it.

$150/month seems like a lot for a hobby like this.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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I work for a very large bank and our management refuses to use AWS as we see it as a potential competitor. So we ended up using a cloud provider that sucks. So it seems that this opinion expressed by OVH CEO is shared by a lot of senior management.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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So there are fairly strong regulations on what other things a bank can do. I can't remember exactly what it entails. It's possible Amazon could get around that with holding company structure or something, but I'm not sure. I agree with your general point though, maybe just not the bank part. Edit1: It's not reg W, damn I cannot remember which section describes this. There's too many bank regs in the US. Edit2: ok 12…

> wasted 15 minutes I used to work in a securities firm owned by a bank holding company in a role requiring being registered as a securities principal (legally responsible to supervise). It still took me several minutes to remember which regulations to look up. Amazon doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of working around these regulations with the current administration. Trump hates Bezos. With a moderate Republ…

Didn't Walmart try to buy itself some sort of bank back in 2006 or so? I have a vague recollection of the venture and it not going Walmart's way.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS bandwidth costs are obscene. They compete on price so well on most other fronts, but for some reason they just completely overcharge on bandwidth. It makes using them without a CDN cost prohibitive and drives a lot of use cases away from them.

What's the best cdn right now? Cloudfront is just expensive as hell.

CDN77 is pretty awesome
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