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OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Indeed, OVH UI is slow and bulky. I moved to Hetzner for a lot of things. Even cheaper, had one server issue, but quickly fixed by their support ( a bios to upgrade ), their UX is simple but efficient. Any other opinion on them?

Hetzner is the best if you care about value. If you look at the hardware they offer you can tell it is designed by people who know what they are doing and really care about getting the best bang for buck.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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There's a lot of banking regulations but Amazon has enough money to either buy an existing online solution or develop their own

In the US, owning a bank changes the regulatory status of the entire legal entity structure. This cannot be evaded with shell companies, etc. Specifically, “any company that controls a bank” is a Bank Holding Company and is regulated by the Federal Reserve (regardless of where the controlled bank is chartered). Being regulated by the Fed is a big deal and they can and will poke around in your non-bank subsidiaries (w…

What if there's one parent company whose subsidiaries include amazon and a bank? Since "amazon" itself isn't controlling the bank, it's not subject to said regulations.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

I can confirm !

I wanted to store a couple gigs of data online.

A friend told me that OVH had a service for that.

I checked their service and found it; wow it was literally 10x as expensive as competitors.

Turns out there are 2 services to store data online by OVH, the one I am looking for was named differently and hard to find on their website.

After seeing that they both had extremely negative reviews, I did not look further.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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2M hits per hour, 1M uniques. It's crazy!

I'm guessing it's mostly automated. Are you being used by a popular software package that you know of?

I wouldn't be surprised if the plain-text ip was used somewhere. Anecdotal evidence but I myself use that for most of my scripts to get my own ip.

A github search shows over 1000 code results.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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As a European, I am sometimes shocked that people in the bay don't know about OVH.

AWS, Azure and GCloud are all so good at Marketing themselves that a lot of people don't even hear about alternatives.

I used a lot OVH both for private reasons and pushed it into my company.

It is by far the cheapest (by a factor of 3-4* in my case), and it is shockingly easy to get to talk to core engineers in case you have any real issue.

The founder Octave Klaba is also a character. A Huge geek, that lives for OVH.

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Care to explain what the business model is here?

https://wtfismyip.com/why There is literally an entire page explaining that there is no business model other than a donation button. There are shockingly people than run websites either as a hobby or to provide a useful service for others with no expectation of making money from it.

Browsed the entire website but can't figure out how to donate. There's no link anywhere, even on the Twitter page.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Okay, that's good to know. However, I had a quick glance at Hetzner (an OVH competitor), and it looks to be using esoteric design. I was thinking about using Hetzner, but I dread it may be like OVH. Anyone with first-hand experience with Hetzner?

I have a few dedicated boxes for almost 10 years now. I highly recommend it. I use it to run bitcoinity.org since it was created in 2011. Because of relatively big database (2TB) and many concurrent websocket connections (peaking around 20K) cost would be prohibitive elsewhere. Great uptime, instant responses, eKVM and blah blah I'm not their marketing team, I'm just a really happy customer. I've tried OVH I think on…

How many servers do you have with Hetzner to manage 20,000 websocket connections? Also, did you ever have data loss in your large database because of hard drive failure?

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

There is also Scaleway owned by Iliad (French telecom/isp provider). Even cheaper and they have basicly copied the DigitalOcean Design.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

I use OVH's So You Start line and I think my biggest complaint is that they don't allow automatic renewal. Every monthly renewal means manually keying in my card number every month. The only alternative is to pre-pay in 3, 6, or 12 months in advance. It is the only online service I use that doesn't handle auto-renewal.

Same here, it's so weird. Most services are dying to get you to sign up for autorenewal, these guys don't even allow it.
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