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OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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I used to have a server with them however the UI was ...beyond words. It was impossible for me to renew my subscription because the site was throwing a JS error. Has this improved? Their offering was very good bang for buck I've seen.

I recently set up a small cluster and can't figure out how to enable vrack (private networking) to the servers. The option is there in the UI, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Not sure if that was a bug or you're supposed to contact support to set them up.

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I wish there was a website that collected all of the times a company promised to "never do x" and then changed their word. Companies break promises all of the time. It's impossible to predict what they or anyone else will do in a few years.

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Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

The credits are probably because it’s a way to get to you to pay in front rather than after the billing period. Some other cloud companies do this too so it’s not too far out. However, it’s a better UX and less hassle to just bill customers in actual dollars/euros than in “MyCompany Credits” (that probably map 1:1 or 1:100 or 1:1000 to USD)

I get the rationale for credits. However, in true OVH fashion, credits is way more confusing than it has to be. The invoice is also confusing. Not a simple "you bought this, you owe this". But it has deductions, subtractions, additions, sub-totals, credits, etc. I am not an accountant!

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I run https://wtfismyip.com on OVH. Egress bandwidth exceeds 8TB a month, which on AWS could cost ~$1000/month, not including the cost of the beefy EC2 instance I would need. For some bandwidth heavy use cases, OVH makes a lot more sense than AWS. In my case it was $150/month versus $2000/month (bandwidth + EC2).

I wonder if nearlyfreespeech would be even cheaper for you.

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This is a nice PR bit, but I wonder if it really matters? I would be very reluctant to do a startup centered on, say, GMail or Amazon Marketplace as a platform. If you get too successful, it's too easy for them to say, "Hey, here's a proven high-value business for us to get into." And then they have my customer right there, so I'm screwed. (An example that comes to mind is Swype. They invented the swipeable virtual k…

Netflix used other things for CDN($$$), and is doing shows themself($$$). Never really used fancy aws expect for pay vps-per-second and out-bandwidth-per-byte.

They also use S3.

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> website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. No, not a European thing. They are just special.

Okay, that's good to know. However, I had a quick glance at Hetzner (an OVH competitor), and it looks to be using esoteric design. I was thinking about using Hetzner, but I dread it may be like OVH. Anyone with first-hand experience with Hetzner?

I have a few dedicated boxes for almost 10 years now. I highly recommend it. I use it to run bitcoinity.org since it was created in 2011. Because of relatively big database (2TB) and many concurrent websocket connections (peaking around 20K) cost would be prohibitive elsewhere. Great uptime, instant responses, eKVM and blah blah I'm not their marketing team, I'm just a really happy customer.

I've tried OVH I think on two or three occasions, mostly VPS which was really sucked. But that was a few years ago maybe they got their s..ervers together.

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I run https://wtfismyip.com on OVH. Egress bandwidth exceeds 8TB a month, which on AWS could cost ~$1000/month, not including the cost of the beefy EC2 instance I would need. For some bandwidth heavy use cases, OVH makes a lot more sense than AWS. In my case it was $150/month versus $2000/month (bandwidth + EC2).

I wonder if nearlyfreespeech would be even cheaper for you.

I've used NFS for more than 10 years. Past a certain point, it does not scale. It's really good for smaller sites and not much else I feel.

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> website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. No, not a European thing. They are just special.

Okay, that's good to know. However, I had a quick glance at Hetzner (an OVH competitor), and it looks to be using esoteric design. I was thinking about using Hetzner, but I dread it may be like OVH. Anyone with first-hand experience with Hetzner?

What do you mean by "esoteric design"?!

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Yeah their UI is beyond useless. Their support is beyond useless. Can't even cancel my servers, but everything else was great. Ended up having to use their API to cancel the server, since support wouldn't cancel the server for me - here is an actual email they sent me: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY2rWiLU8AA_mKt.jpg:large

It's weird because in every article I see about DigitalOcean, there's people saying "DO is stupid, they're overpriced, everyone should use OVH", yet in every article I see about OVH there are people complaining that OVH has some serious customer support and UX problems.

I'm a long time OVH customer (also kumsufi) - if you don't need the support you can't find a better bang for your buck provider anywhere else. Especially in the storage department.

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AWS bandwidth costs are obscene. They compete on price so well on most other fronts, but for some reason they just completely overcharge on bandwidth. It makes using them without a CDN cost prohibitive and drives a lot of use cases away from them.

What's the best cdn right now? Cloudfront is just expensive as hell.

In terms of price I still haven't found anything better than CloudFlare. If performance is the goal all the testing I've done for work shows Akamai as the leader, though not by a lot. Fastly is making strides to compete with both, as well.
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