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OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by dmoy »

arenaninja wrote: post #8
dmoy wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So there are fairly strong regulations on what other things a bank can do. I can't remember exactly what it entails. It's possible Amazon could get around that with holding company structure or something, but I'm not sure. I agree with your general point though, maybe just not the bank part. Edit1: It's not reg W, damn I cannot remember which section describes this. There's too many bank regs in the US. Edit2: ok 12…

There's a lot of banking regulations but Amazon has enough money to either buy an existing online solution or develop their own

Sure I'm not saying Amazon lacks the capacity, but rather that the CFR might actually prohibit a company owning both a bank and a massive commercial retail structure, etc etc.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by ddorian43 »

wpietri wrote: post #6

This is a nice PR bit, but I wonder if it really matters? I would be very reluctant to do a startup centered on, say, GMail or Amazon Marketplace as a platform. If you get too successful, it's too easy for them to say, "Hey, here's a proven high-value business for us to get into." And then they have my customer right there, so I'm screwed. (An example that comes to mind is Swype. They invented the swipeable virtual k…

Netflix used other things for CDN($$$), and is doing shows themself($$$). Never really used fancy aws expect for pay vps-per-second and out-bandwidth-per-byte.

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Post by meowface »

thejosh wrote: post #7
adamnemecek wrote: post #2

I used to have a server with them however the UI was ...beyond words. It was impossible for me to renew my subscription because the site was throwing a JS error. Has this improved? Their offering was very good bang for buck I've seen.

Yeah their UI is beyond useless. Their support is beyond useless. Can't even cancel my servers, but everything else was great. Ended up having to use their API to cancel the server, since support wouldn't cancel the server for me - here is an actual email they sent me: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY2rWiLU8AA_mKt.jpg:large

OVH is also notorious for being very slow to respond to abuse reports. They've been one of the favorite VPS providers for botnets, exploit kits, and other cybercrime activities as of a few years ago, and may still be.

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Post by QUFB »

I run https://wtfismyip.com on OVH. Egress bandwidth exceeds 8TB a month, which on AWS could cost ~$1000/month, not including the cost of the beefy EC2 instance I would need.

For some bandwidth heavy use cases, OVH makes a lot more sense than AWS. In my case it was $150/month versus $2000/month (bandwidth + EC2).

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Post by IntelMiner »

thejosh wrote: post #7
adamnemecek wrote: post #2

I used to have a server with them however the UI was ...beyond words. It was impossible for me to renew my subscription because the site was throwing a JS error. Has this improved? Their offering was very good bang for buck I've seen.

Yeah their UI is beyond useless. Their support is beyond useless. Can't even cancel my servers, but everything else was great. Ended up having to use their API to cancel the server, since support wouldn't cancel the server for me - here is an actual email they sent me: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY2rWiLU8AA_mKt.jpg:large

+1 to their support being useless

Bought a block of extra IP's. IP's assigned would not route to anything

OVH gave me a barrage of tests and kept insisting I'd fucked up

Eventually they asked if they could directly connect to my server (with my consent)

Immediately declared the issue "Closed" because I wasn't using VMware ESXi!

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Post by gav »

wpietri wrote: post #6

This is a nice PR bit, but I wonder if it really matters? I would be very reluctant to do a startup centered on, say, GMail or Amazon Marketplace as a platform. If you get too successful, it's too easy for them to say, "Hey, here's a proven high-value business for us to get into." And then they have my customer right there, so I'm screwed. (An example that comes to mind is Swype. They invented the swipeable virtual k…

> This is a nice PR bit, but I wonder if it really matters?

Over the last year I've seen a huge push to move away from AWS from retail clients. Azure is a lot more appealing because Microsoft doesn't compete with them.

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Post by jpswade »

So what can we gleam from this?

OVH aren't about to start selling books or buy supermarket chains? Quelle surprise.

Having AWS in the hosting market means that right now, it's become a cottage industry for anyone else other than the big names in tech. Meanwhile these big names in tech know that they can make money from their platforms.

They simply can't compete on the same level and now they've decided that's what makes them unique in the industry...

What should a hosting business to do in 2018?

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