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Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by endemic » Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 2:44 PM UTC

ThinkingGuy wrote: post #58

grzm wrote: post #29

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For what it's worth, Wikipedia includes this explanation: > "In English, "mate" is occasionally written "maté", to distinguish it from other meanings of the word mate, although this spelling is not used in Spanish or Portuguese." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate A similar example is "résumé", so as to not be confused with "resume". Going further down the Wikipedia hole, here's a page describing use of diacrit…

I've also seen sake (the Japanese beverage) spelled as saké, presumably to distinguish it from the English word "sake."

Usually you can infer the meaning of the word from its context, but the accent gives English speakers a better idea of how to pronounce it.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by clubMate » Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 5:40 PM UTC

wunderlust wrote: post #104

dalacv wrote: post #56

i tried yerba mate in an an automatic drip coffee maker with some cream and sugar and i was blown away by the energy i got from it. there was no caffeine crash. it was a sustained energy. it takes a while to kick in so u gotta drink it first thing in morning. u can find some popular bags of it on amazon. it has to be the loose leaf stuff, not the individual bags. i think i tried Taragui Yerba Mate Con Palo. but there…

Yerba mate[0] has 2 stimulants aside from caffeine: theophylline and theobromine. Perhaps they interact in such a way as to stabilize the effect of the caffeine. [0] http://nativayerbamate.com/health.html (Nativa sells yerba mate so possible bias)

I tried Mate once in the form of Club Mate, a popular alternative drink in Germany. It triggered migraine headache, so i wont drink it again. I just looked up Theobromine on Wikipedia which states that high dosis may cause headache. I think this is an explanation for why i got headaches from it.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by clubMate » Sat, Mar 31, 2018, 5:43 PM UTC

ppierald wrote: post #75

Go nearly anywhere in Argentina and you will find mate. People walk around with a thermos of hot water and sip all day. It is a shared cultural experience too like saying hello. You see a friend, greet them, then offer them some mate. Our SF-based company has an office in Mendoza, Argentina. You will not find baristas and coffee (though Starbucks just opened there), but plenty of mate for everyone. Due to this connec…

I tried Club Mate once, a popular drink in Germany, but it gave me headache. I suspect this is due to the Theobromine content.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by diyseguy » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 4:08 PM UTC

jonah wrote: post #122

acdanger wrote: post #98

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I'm guessing moderate pawpaw consumption is still relatively safe. This study isolated annnonacin from pawpaws and applied it to neural cells directly in large dosages. The soursop case involved prolonged and daily intake, as well.

The toxins are mostly in the leaves, bark, and skins, so eating them is quite safe. Some people can have an allergic reaction when consuming them so just be aware of that when trying them for the first few times.

According to the linked article, the toxin is in the fruit pulp. I wonder if it could be bred out?

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by jonah » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 10:14 PM UTC

diyseguy wrote: post #164

jonah wrote: post #122

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The toxins are mostly in the leaves, bark, and skins, so eating them is quite safe. Some people can have an allergic reaction when consuming them so just be aware of that when trying them for the first few times.

According to the linked article, the toxin is in the fruit pulp. I wonder if it could be bred out?

There's only a small amount in the pulp. Not an issue unless you totally gorge on them. (Similar to the Cyanide in Almonds.)

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by LostPinesYaupon » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 2:13 AM UTC

barking wrote: post #159

LostPinesYaupon wrote: post #146

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Or try ours. We harvest our own. That company resells someone elses ;) https://lostpinesyaupontea.com

Fair dues to you for finding this thread, you guys are on the ball Actually I came across your (very nice) site first but you don't ship outside N. America unfortunately.

Thanks for the compliment. We do ship outside of N. America and you should have been able to select that as an option. I'm going to have to go take a look see.. I just sent a package to Denmark and Germany.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by barking » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 1:55 PM UTC

LostPinesYaupon wrote: post #166

barking wrote: post #159

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Fair dues to you for finding this thread, you guys are on the ball Actually I came across your (very nice) site first but you don't ship outside N. America unfortunately.

Thanks for the compliment. We do ship outside of N. America and you should have been able to select that as an option. I'm going to have to go take a look see.. I just sent a package to Denmark and Germany.

Fair enough, then I think you need to change the text on your shipping & Returns tab.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by StudentStuff » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 1:58 AM UTC

moultano wrote: post #96

StudentStuff wrote: post #47

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This right here is why I've dumped Google. Long tail searches essentially no longer work, if I type a part number into Google it'll often be rewritten needlessly and I'll get irrelevant results. Even Yahoo can get long tail search right, which is a pretty low bar. Though, Qwant seems to be the most well rounded search engine, both Yahoo and DuckDuckGo have unpolished edge cases that have turned me off over the years.

If you can remember the example queries I can pass them along to debug. (You can check your search history if you have it turned on. https://myactivity.google.com/myactivity )

Already passed them along a few weeks back when I was over in Fremont (a neighborhood in Seattle) at the Google Campus. Not expecting much, most of my friends who worked at Google have moved on to greener pastures.

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by Artistry121 » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 4:47 PM UTC

LostPinesYaupon wrote: post #84

hellojason wrote: post #64

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Do you recall which market you went to? I’m curious to try some.

He's talking about Local Leaf. They're at the Mueller Farmers Market on Sundays from 10am-2pm. They're super nice and chatty. They cold brew theres to the caffeine strength of coffee. Come check us out too, Lost Pines Yaupon Tea ( http://lostpinesyaupontea.com ), we're also at that market. We also do the Downtown (sat 9-1), Lakeline (sat 9-1) and HOPE (sun 11-3) markets. We sell loose leaf, tea bags and brewed tea. O…

I never thought I'd see a vendor of Yaupon at my regular farmer's market(HOPE) on HN!

Re: A Forgotten Drink That Caffeinated North America for Centuries

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Post by esaym » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 4:31 PM UTC

cat199 wrote: post #139

esaym wrote: post #111

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Now we're talking! Definitely on my todo list of drinks to try.

it's great. Unfortunately hard (impossible?) to come by these days in the US due to stronger restrictions related to ephedrine..

Can't you just grow the plant yourself though?