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Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Post by ubernostrum »

grzm wrote: post #44
robobro wrote: post #4

Hot take: we should revive ATOM instead. RSS and ATOM are both nearly always machine generated and machine read so this may seem trivial to argue, but for those who are interesting in seeing the difference, this is a good article http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/Rss20AndAtom10Compared -------- When I wrote a forum software a while back, it was trivial to not only add a feed for new threads but also for new commen…

intertwingly.net! Now that brings back memories! Sam Ruby, Dave Winer, Jeffrey Zeldman, Eric Meyer, Tim Bray, Mark Pilgrim, Joe Clark. XML, DTDs, XML Schema, Relax NG, XSL, XSLT, FOP, CSS and XHTML! WaSP, micro formats (and XML-RPC, SOAP, and WSDL (pre-WS-Death Star). Oh, heady days! Apologies for the pedantry, but a nit: It's Atom, not ATOM. It's not an acronym like RSS.

Once upon a time in the days of my youth, Sam linked to something I wrote, and seemed to approve or at least not completely think I was wrong. Made my entire month.

I miss those crazy idealistic days.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Post by Vinnl »

mosselman wrote: post #76

I completely agree. When did RSS go out of style anyway? The other day I wanted to subscribe to an author's posts on Medium, but I couldn't find a RSS feed anywhere, so I never did. Seems like a loss for the author to me, seeing as gaining influence and credibility is probably the goal of many who write posts. It would also seem as if Medium doesn't want to add RSS as it would take control away in terms of recommendi…

Medium has had RSS for quite a while, it just didn't link them in a page's metadata. I believe they do now.

For example:

https://medium.com/feed/flockademic (publication)

https://medium.com/feed/@flockademic (user)

The latter also includes responses to stories though, which can be noisy.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Post by lovelearning »

mosselman wrote: post #76

I completely agree. When did RSS go out of style anyway? The other day I wanted to subscribe to an author's posts on Medium, but I couldn't find a RSS feed anywhere, so I never did. Seems like a loss for the author to me, seeing as gaining influence and credibility is probably the goal of many who write posts. It would also seem as if Medium doesn't want to add RSS as it would take control away in terms of recommendi…

They provide feeds, but don't show a link anywhere on the UI (which is strange).

[1]: https://help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articles/214874118-RSS-feed...

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Post by grayrest »

mosselman wrote: post #76

I completely agree. When did RSS go out of style anyway? The other day I wanted to subscribe to an author's posts on Medium, but I couldn't find a RSS feed anywhere, so I never did. Seems like a loss for the author to me, seeing as gaining influence and credibility is probably the goal of many who write posts. It would also seem as if Medium doesn't want to add RSS as it would take control away in terms of recommendi…

> When did RSS go out of style anyway?

It went away when Google killed Reader. Reader had more or less killed off the independent RSS reader market. When it got shuttered, alternatives weren't well developed and people shifted more or less entirely onto Twitter. The Twitter shift had been happening already but the shutdown kind of forced the issue.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Post by IlPeach »

cdancette wrote: post #78

I used RSS while Google reader existed, and I stopped using it for a few years after it disappeared. Now, I'm using a service that sends some RSS feed to my email so so can read them directly from there. I think it's amazing as it has all the features I need (tagging, mark read / unread) and I don't need to open another website / application to read my news.

Have you got a link?

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Post by modernerd »

Yes. But please not RSS. At least newer initiatives like JSON Feed have maintainers who respond to requests for improvements.

RSS feels like an abandoned standard. I tried to submit an improvement to the author directly to explicitly allow HTTPS URLs in light of upcoming iTunes changes to enforce HTTPS; they said by email that of course HTTPS resources are valid in their view, but they weren't prepared to actively update the spec to say as much. Until that's done some feed validators continue to mark HTTPS resources as invalid.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Post by zworks »

kzrdude wrote: post #71
cmcginty wrote: post #69

When did people stop using RSS? After Google Reader was available, I've never looked back.

I would say that Reddit and hacker news are direct "competitors" to RSS readers, it's a different kind of syndication flow that certainly replaced my RSS Reader for me.

hm, I'm actually reading both HN and reddit through RSS right now, just add .rss after any subreddit url and you are done: https://www.reddit.com/r/wtf/.rss

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Post by modernerd »

sago wrote: post #55

RSS is awesome. Bring on its resurgence. But. It is fundamentally not fit as a Facebook or social media replacement because of it's lack of simple commenting support. It suits some curmudgeonly old farts like me, perhaps. But even I want to feedback sometimes or join in the discussion (hence this comment). Are there solutions that a content creator can provide, via RSS, without requiring its readers to install partic…

There is ActivityPub:

https://activitypub.rocks/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16222478

https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/

https://github.com/w3c/activitypub

But not enough implementations of it yet that tie into blog content.

Re: It's time to head back to RSS?

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Post by adrianmsmith »

IlPeach wrote: post #85
cdancette wrote: post #78

I used RSS while Google reader existed, and I stopped using it for a few years after it disappeared. Now, I'm using a service that sends some RSS feed to my email so so can read them directly from there. I think it's amazing as it has all the features I need (tagging, mark read / unread) and I don't need to open another website / application to read my news.

Have you got a link?

I do the same. I use https://blogtrottr.com/ and am very happy wit it.
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