Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
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Re: Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
#2If he had seen this issue multiple times before why would he keep using autopilot in that area? That seems like a very odd decision.
Re: Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
#3If he had seen this issue multiple times before why would he keep using autopilot in that area? That seems like a very odd decision.
True, but let's not blame the victim.
Re: Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
#4If he had seen this issue multiple times before why would he keep using autopilot in that area? That seems like a very odd decision.
True, but let's not blame the victim.
He wouldn't be a victim in that case. If he had killed someone else in addition to himself, I'm sure you would be more keen on holding him responsible.
Re: Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
#5If he had seen this issue multiple times before why would he keep using autopilot in that area? That seems like a very odd decision.
True, but let's not blame the victim.
The operator of a vehicle is responsible for operating it.
Somewhere between 7-10 iterations of the same dangerous failure mode, it's time to stop betting your life that the failure won't repeat.
> Walter complained "7-10 times the car would swivel toward that same exact barrier during auto-pilot."
This still doesn't diminish Tesla's obligation to make their autopilot system behave properly.
Re: Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
True, but let's not blame the victim.
The operator of a vehicle is responsible for operating it. Somewhere between 7-10 iterations of the same dangerous failure mode, it's time to stop betting your life that the failure won't repeat. > Walter complained "7-10 times the car would swivel toward that same exact barrier during auto-pilot." This still doesn't diminish Tesla's obligation to make their autopilot system behave properly.
"The operator of a vehicle is responsible for operating it."
But he wasn't operating it.
Re: Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
#7Re: Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
The operator of a vehicle is responsible for operating it. Somewhere between 7-10 iterations of the same dangerous failure mode, it's time to stop betting your life that the failure won't repeat. > Walter complained "7-10 times the car would swivel toward that same exact barrier during auto-pilot." This still doesn't diminish Tesla's obligation to make their autopilot system behave properly.
"The operator of a vehicle is responsible for operating it." But he wasn't operating it.
Well he should have been considering he was the driver...
Re: Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
#9It'll be interesting to see if anything comes of the issue with the already-collapsed crash barrier and what CalTrans says about it. That sort of thing is there for a reason, and to be left in a crushed state for any period of time is bad.
Re: Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
The operator of a vehicle is responsible for operating it. Somewhere between 7-10 iterations of the same dangerous failure mode, it's time to stop betting your life that the failure won't repeat. > Walter complained "7-10 times the car would swivel toward that same exact barrier during auto-pilot." This still doesn't diminish Tesla's obligation to make their autopilot system behave properly.
"The operator of a vehicle is responsible for operating it." But he wasn't operating it.
I think most of us would be more keen on not dying regardless of who is legally responsible