Seems like work schedules would parallel this finding.
Poor Grades Tied to Class Times That Don’t Match Our Biological Clocks
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The article doesn't support that, it doesn't make sense for a vast majority of school districts - especially inner city ones. Another commenter made more sense - early class times give parents time before work to prepare their kids for school. This football angle is ridiculous. If it were true, wouldn't colleges and universities suffer from the same standard?
Oh, it's ridiculous, and a pretty well known reason for anyone who has studied US public education. Here is one such article: https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/04/how-sc... You'll find case after case of local newspapers reporting on school board meetings where requests to move the start time were met with fierce opposition by athletic directors, etc. Both my parents were educators (my mom ran specia…
"High-school sports represent one of the most consistent roadblocks barring change."
from Atlantic article.
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hm, that's very debatable. alot would contend history and science are core but others aren't. I've heard many complain that they never use math in the real world. I think math is core but the problem is its very opinion based. I don't see how other subjects don't build on each other.
the importance of the ability to calculate and communicate are debatable only by people in total denial about how pervasive both are in our society. should those people really have any say in the curriculum of our children's future?
hm, that isn't what i said. You were ranking them relative to eachother and i said people might disagree on the relative rankings. I said that "people may disagree that math and english are more important than history and science". You responded as if i said "Math and english aren't important". Those are two completely different arguments.
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At the root of it, they define "core" as Math and English with the goal to centralize those two in the middle of the day as much as possible. Physical Education, Art, Spanish, Music, History, Science, etc are scheduled around those accordingly. The main reasoning is simply that math and English are the two subjects that build upon each other the most from grade level to grade level and because of that, they are consi…
hm, that's very debatable. alot would contend history and science are core but others aren't. I've heard many complain that they never use math in the real world. I think math is core but the problem is its very opinion based. I don't see how other subjects don't build on each other.
just because someone doesn't use math in the real world doesn't mean that it wouldn't benefit them to.
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#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
At the root of it, they define "core" as Math and English with the goal to centralize those two in the middle of the day as much as possible. Physical Education, Art, Spanish, Music, History, Science, etc are scheduled around those accordingly. The main reasoning is simply that math and English are the two subjects that build upon each other the most from grade level to grade level and because of that, they are consi…
hm, that's very debatable. alot would contend history and science are core but others aren't. I've heard many complain that they never use math in the real world. I think math is core but the problem is its very opinion based. I don't see how other subjects don't build on each other.
If you sleep through European history, you can still learn American history. If you sleep through biology, you can still learn chemistry.
If you sleep through algebra, you can't do calculus, period.
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#276I was a miserable high school student. Both miserable in feeling, and my grades were atrocious.
School started just after seven AM, and I never slept more than 4 hours. The only time the phone line was available for me to use my modem was at night so I preferred using my computer over getting good grades.
It took me a while to get to university but when I did I ended up an excellent GPA. Classes never started before 9, go figure.
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Teach health? Sex Ed? Preparation and setup? My PE teachers in JHS and HS were more than just PE teachers. Was my school just an outlier?
It probably depends on the size of the school or school district. I went to large schools for both MS and HS, and all of our PE teachers only taught PE throughout the day, as it was offered all seven class periods as there were simply too many students to only offer the class two to three periods. In HS, freshman tended to have the largest class sizes as they only had two class periods to choose from, and were split…
Yeah my high school had 2,500 students, there's no way they could've even fit everyone onto the field in the morning let alone have the staff to handle that.
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Would partitioned showers help with this problem?
Middle schools already have partitioned showers. At least mine did, I imagine most others that have them do as well. The biggest issue with the showering are the time constraints. The social stigma is present, just in a minor fashion. Being late to class trumps all else.
My middle school did not. No doors on the bathroom stalls either.
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#279Interesting stuff but night owls could also go to bed early, drink a bit less etc
I mean, bioritm it isnt the only datapoint.
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#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are sleep deprived to the point of "torture" you will fall asleep right during the day in noisy place. No study of teenagers sleep patterns found that they are tortured via sleep deprivation. That is lie.
Uh... lots of high school students literally fall asleep in the middle of class. There's a reason it's a pop culture cliche.
That is not caused by different natural rhytme, that is caused by them not going to sleep till they are exhausted. It does not happen if they are not allowed to watch TV or browse the net or chat of social whatever and are sent to bed by parents.
That pop culture cliché also have only kids who don't give a fuck about anything doing that. And it is fuelled by it being perceived as cool. Overwhelming majority of students don't sleep during class.