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Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

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Post by Terretta »

StavrosK wrote: post #6
DougBTX wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

though of course you can copy music off an ipod by copying the mp3 files off it like any other mounted disk, except that they are in a folder with its hidden attribute set.

And they're renamed with obscure filenames, and you can't do this with iPods touch or iPhones.

FUD... You can.

You don't have to use iTunes, or even an Apple app, to get things on and off an iDevice. For example: http://ecamm.com/mac/phoneview/

Blurb:

Multimedia Is No Longer Trapped on your iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch

Free your Photos and Movies -- Download camera photos and movies in just a few clicks. You can even use PhoneView to export the iPhone's synced Photo Library if you've lost the originals.

Music Made Easy -- Play any iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch music library through your Mac's speakers. Grab music, videos and podcasts from your device with one click.

Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

#12

Post by kylec »

statictype wrote: post #8

I'm surprised that people who wanted this feature haven't already enabled manual-sync. Is there really some benefit in having it automatically sync your device to be worth the pain of not being able to plug it in somewhere else? I went a step further and edited the iTunes DB file's device ids so that they are the same across all 3 of my systems. So my iPhone now recognizes each as the same system allowing me to sync…

I could never get it to work with my iPhone, even with "manual sync". There is the possibility I was doing something wrong, but with iTunes 10 it doesn't matter at this point.

http://superuser.com/questions/9794/play-music-on-iphone-thr...

Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

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Post by sprout »

swombat wrote: post #4

That's a pretty big feature change... is that a mistake or did they somehow slip that past the record labels?

No it's not. This is only really useful if you want to use a computer's built-in speakers to play music that's located on your iPod.

Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

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Post by jokermatt999 »

StavrosK wrote: post #6
DougBTX wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

though of course you can copy music off an ipod by copying the mp3 files off it like any other mounted disk, except that they are in a folder with its hidden attribute set.

And they're renamed with obscure filenames, and you can't do this with iPods touch or iPhones.

However, a simple search can pick up the metadata and find the bands you want. Still not as eay as MTP.

Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

#15

Post by [deleted] »

StavrosK wrote: post #6
DougBTX wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

though of course you can copy music off an ipod by copying the mp3 files off it like any other mounted disk, except that they are in a folder with its hidden attribute set.

And they're renamed with obscure filenames, and you can't do this with iPods touch or iPhones.

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Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

#16

Post by kgermino »

htsh wrote: post #10

Is it just me, or did this used to work before? I thought you could always play the music off someone else's iPod without being able to copy it.

It worked before, the only change is that now you don't have to set the iPod to Manual Sync. It's not a huge deal but it is much more convenient because after enabling manual sync on one computer the iPod would default to manual sync on all computers and you would have to individually reset it to sync music, movies, tv shows, podcasts, and pictures. It can get to be a pain, especially if it's somthing your doing every day.

Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

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Post by graywh »

StavrosK wrote: post #6
DougBTX wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

though of course you can copy music off an ipod by copying the mp3 files off it like any other mounted disk, except that they are in a folder with its hidden attribute set.

And they're renamed with obscure filenames, and you can't do this with iPods touch or iPhones.

senuti (os x only)

Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

#18

Post by ZeroGravitas »

jokermatt999 wrote: post #14
StavrosK wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And they're renamed with obscure filenames, and you can't do this with iPods touch or iPhones.

However, a simple search can pick up the metadata and find the bands you want. Still not as eay as MTP.

You'll need a different hack to put music or video files from a random computer onto your device too. That's assuming it's even possible, they seem to be in an arms race each new devices having your data further encrypted in some way.

Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

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Post by jsz0 »

jrockway wrote: post #3
SandB0x wrote: post #2

Gee, now I feel like an idiot for buying a portable media player that just mounts as a USB drive.

Don't worry, you still can't copy music from a device back into iTunes. I mean, obviously the bits representing the music flow from the iDevice into the computer, but the computer doesn't belong to you anymore, so you don't get access to them. Silly user. USB devices fail in that they rely on the user to make his own decisions about whether or not to copy his friend's music collection. Apple devices let some music ex…

USB mass storage players also fail nicely at being usable for most normal people. Plug it in, get an Explorer window, now what? Open another Explorer window -- reposition windows so you can see both. Navigate to your music collection. Find the first thing you want to copy -- hopefully your music folder is well organized by filename. Copy (don't move!) files. Make sure there are no incompatible filenames. FAT32 isn't very forgiving about this. When you're done make sure you safely unmount the volume by right clicking on the green arrow in your system tray (the thing by the clock). If you have multiple green arrows just try right clicking on them all until you find the right one. Now enjoy your music and start preparing to repeat the process tomorrow when you want to add a song.

Re: Little known iTunes 10 benefit

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Post by GeneralMaximus »

jsz0 wrote: post #19
jrockway wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't worry, you still can't copy music from a device back into iTunes. I mean, obviously the bits representing the music flow from the iDevice into the computer, but the computer doesn't belong to you anymore, so you don't get access to them. Silly user. USB devices fail in that they rely on the user to make his own decisions about whether or not to copy his friend's music collection. Apple devices let some music ex…

USB mass storage players also fail nicely at being usable for most normal people. Plug it in, get an Explorer window, now what? Open another Explorer window -- reposition windows so you can see both. Navigate to your music collection. Find the first thing you want to copy -- hopefully your music folder is well organized by filename. Copy (don't move!) files. Make sure there are no incompatible filenames. FAT32 isn't…

iTunes used to handle USB mass storage players just like it handles iPods. I think they killed that feature in iTunes 9.
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