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Multicriteria value decision analysis theory and methods are able to provide the solution to model the need (utility). For instance, in reinforcement learning the payoff (goal) function is always a given without any depth consideration about its construction. It can be modeled by using the methods referred previously.

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Multicriteria value decision analysis theory and methods are able to provide the solution to model the need (utility). For instance, in reinforcement learning the payoff (goal) function is always a given without any depth consideration about its construction. It can be modeled by using the methods referred previously.

I thought that theory told us multicriteria optimization is intractable?

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Companies make things that they can sell in a marketplace it is necessarily not what that place needs. For example social media companies just want to sell their social networks in any country with internet irrespective of that country have drinking water problem or humanitarian crisis.

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Yes!

The sentiment is something I (and I suspect many other engineers) feel, but not able to express it nearly so simply and elegantly.

Before you sit down and start writing that code or creating that new algorithm, stop and think about what you really want to achieve.

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Fascinating. Instead of banning money or fixing prices (did they try that in Russia?) we retain free markets but now with a new layer of government intervention. Not intervention by social spending or regulation but by buying and selling according to the dictats of an AI. And the utility function of this AI is set according to what exactly?

My guess is it would have to be according to our values, not to specific goals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZBViI8ZaU0

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Fascinating. Instead of banning money or fixing prices (did they try that in Russia?) we retain free markets but now with a new layer of government intervention. Not intervention by social spending or regulation but by buying and selling according to the dictats of an AI. And the utility function of this AI is set according to what exactly? My guess is it would have to be according to our values, not to specific goal…

The Soviet Union always had money and banking. It was just less meaningful than it is in America.

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Multicriteria value decision analysis theory and methods are able to provide the solution to model the need (utility). For instance, in reinforcement learning the payoff (goal) function is always a given without any depth consideration about its construction. It can be modeled by using the methods referred previously.

I thought that theory told us multicriteria optimization is intractable?

If that's the same as multivariate opt, there are billion-dollar industries that rely on it every day.
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