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Re: 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare DNS Resolver Soon to Be Announced?

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Post by notafxn »

durkie wrote: post #3
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #2

This is awesome to hear, and for all of the criticism Cloudflare has gotten in the past, they have spoken loudly against censorship, not just for people they like, but those they dislike as well. I'd much rather point my DNS at them than Google, an ad company where tracking is the whole business model.

Really? Didn't the CEO kick stormfront off Cloudflare because they thought they were assholes?

They will kick you off if you're a white supremacist, but not if you're a carder or a phisher.

Re: 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare DNS Resolver Soon to Be Announced?

#33

Post by cm2187 »

amq wrote: post #12

The concerning thing about this is that internet is increasingly dependent on Cloudflare, making it a single point of failure and exploitation. Somehow, people are not talking much about it, but a significant amount of sites have opted in for Cloudflare proxying, allowing it to see the traffic in plain text, while the visitors are made to believe that the connection is secure. Similarly, users will now use their fast…

To me that’s a diversification away from 8.8.8.8. I am absolutely not criticising google’s DNS, it’s a useful service. But I am happy to get more choice.

Re: 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare DNS Resolver Soon to Be Announced?

#34

Post by nandhp »

artursapek wrote: post #27

How does a company like Cloudflare come to acquire a "vanity" IP address like that? Are they just sold privately to high bidders?

It appears APNIC still owns the IP address, described as "APNIC and Cloudflare DNS Resolver project, Routed globally by AS13335/Cloudflare, Research prefix for APNIC Labs".

https://wq.apnic.net/apnic-bin/whois.pl?searchtext=1.1.1.1

Re: 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare DNS Resolver Soon to Be Announced?

#35

Post by manacit »

cm2187 wrote: post #33
amq wrote: post #12

The concerning thing about this is that internet is increasingly dependent on Cloudflare, making it a single point of failure and exploitation. Somehow, people are not talking much about it, but a significant amount of sites have opted in for Cloudflare proxying, allowing it to see the traffic in plain text, while the visitors are made to believe that the connection is secure. Similarly, users will now use their fast…

To me that’s a diversification away from 8.8.8.8. I am absolutely not criticising google’s DNS, it’s a useful service. But I am happy to get more choice.

I agree - there are not very many internet-scale (for lack of a better term), completely free and fast DNS servers who have an IP address that's easy to remember.

Is that specific? sure, but I'll tell you when I go to set a new system up I'm going to type 8.8.8.8 because it's what comes to my mind.

Re: 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare DNS Resolver Soon to Be Announced?

#36

Post by diggan »

artursapek wrote: post #27

How does a company like Cloudflare come to acquire a "vanity" IP address like that? Are they just sold privately to high bidders?

It worked like this (according to the submitted website archive):

> Cloudflare had the network. APNIC had the IP address (1.1.1.1). Both of us were motivated by a mission to help build a better Internet. You can read more about each organization’s motivations on our respective posts: Cloudflare Blog / APNIC Blog.

The blog post links just links to the blog themselves, not actually to a post, so this submission seems premature.

Re: 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare DNS Resolver Soon to Be Announced?

#38

Post by quantumleap22 »

amq wrote: post #12

The concerning thing about this is that internet is increasingly dependent on Cloudflare, making it a single point of failure and exploitation. Somehow, people are not talking much about it, but a significant amount of sites have opted in for Cloudflare proxying, allowing it to see the traffic in plain text, while the visitors are made to believe that the connection is secure. Similarly, users will now use their fast…

And, thus, censorship, now that Silicon Valley has taken freedom of speech to the DNS level.

They booted the daily stormer, knowing full well the ramifications:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

"Get out of the way so we can DDoS this site off the Internet."

Re: 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare DNS Resolver Soon to Be Announced?

#39

Post by cm2187 »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #2

This is awesome to hear, and for all of the criticism Cloudflare has gotten in the past, they have spoken loudly against censorship, not just for people they like, but those they dislike as well. I'd much rather point my DNS at them than Google, an ad company where tracking is the whole business model.

How much tracking can you do on a v4 DNS? There can be thousands of people behind the same IPv4 at a given time, or it could change in a matter of minutes. A state could probably be able to exploit that (as in there is a political opponent living at this address) but if the aim is just to track an individual’s browsing habit I would think it is impractical.

IPv6, other debate.

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